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Ain't techknawledgy grand?

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Hmmm... I see an emerging market for key baskets made from copper mesh.
 
I think that's BS. Really.

By the way, one of my street cars only has a toggle switch and a push button for the "key" (the real key was lost before I owned it).
Luckily, it has a "technology" that most knuckle-dragging car thieves could not manage.....it's a stick shift. :friendly_wink:
 
Pssst! Hey I can get big money for this little Brit car
Help me find the service port so I can hack this start mode of this thing then BAm! we are in the money!
 
SD Bugeye said:
Pssst! Hey I can get big money for this little Brit car
Help me find the service port so I can hack this start mode of this thing then BAm! we are in the money!
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Probably wouldn't mess with something with bulged headlights....but I'd be willing to bet you get up the food chain a bit into new Jags, Bentleys, Aston-Martins, they'd be hot to trot to find software driven hardware to snag your vehicle.
 
I'm very skeptical of this faraday cage stuff. Surely this would be more widely known.
There are a number of people near me that routinely report car prowls they claim are due to unforced entry into locked cars. Still, although these petty criminals are claimed to have the gadgets, nobody else seems to have them (or there doesn't seem to be any source of them).
 
I don't know. The article CLAIMS Amazon has the brain wave amplifiers for less than a hundred bucks....
 
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I don't know. The article CLAIMS Amazon has the brain wave amplifiers for less than a hundred bucks....
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Well then... :encouragement: Jeff Bezos strikes again!
 
All part of the plan. Electric cars because the EPA mandates you can't meet emissions requirements anymore, then driverless as you can't trust idiots to A) know what they're doing, B) pay attention, or C) stay off the stupidphone.....and now they generate techknawledgy obviously written by Gates and Co (who else had to have security updates every couple of DAYS?) with holes big enough to drive semis through.
You saw the news about auto makers wanting to make it illegal to work on the electronics of your cars. So now you can't work on it, you really don't even own the cars anymore (another page from Gates and Co), just pay "leasing" fees, and the new cars are extremely "hackable" so someone else can steal what you're leasing.
Only good thing might be a hidden program....thieves steal, computer identifies it ain't you (out of range of original key fob or forehead implanted chip) the doors lock and the car drives itself to the cop house, where the car stops, flashed headlamps, sets off alarm......until cops come away from the donut break to investigate...of course if it depends on google maps, especially the newest version, when it THINKS it's driving you to the cop house with the doors locked, might be the middle of the Shenandoah River....
 
TOC said:
All part of the plan. ....
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Giving them too much credit. There is no "plan". ;)

TOC said:
Only good thing might be a hidden program....thieves steal, computer identifies it ain't you (.......forehead implanted chip) ....
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You are bad. :highly_amused:

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......until cops come away from the donut break to investigate.......
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Very bad.

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....... when it THINKS it's driving you to the cop house with the doors locked, might be the middle of the Shenandoah River....
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Not *another* banjo thread! :p
 
I don't know much about the tech, but I'm dubious that a key fob would react to anything without the button being pushed. If the fob was active all the time, the battery wouldn't last very long. There are several news stories on YouTube of an electronic device that will open a car in seconds. The thieves seem to point the device directly at the passenger door.
 
Agree a fob is a transmitter
not a receiver. It requires a physical press of a switch to power then activate that's why they don't seem to ever need there battery's changed.
i' m going to say you would have better luck scanning the frq. And hitting all variations of the code at the car than going after the fob unless you are sitting and catch a transmission a lock - unlock done by the owner. Same as syncing you factory ford visor garge door opener with you garage door manufactures. May be doing the exact same frequency diff of course
 
I found something interesting with a rental car. The Dodge Charger I rented let me unlock the door with the fob in my pocket. I had to lift the door handle twice for this to happen. That would explain how thieves are doing this. You don't need to press the button on the fob.
 
Rhodyspit75 said:
I found something interesting with a rental car. The Dodge Charger I rented let me unlock the door with the fob in my pocket. I had to lift the door handle twice for this to happen. That would explain how thieves are doing this. You don't need to press the button on the fob.
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I think you were able to open the door since the key fob was in your pocket. I believe it will allow you access to the door as long as the key fob is in close proximity. I don't think anyone can just lift the handle twice and gain entry without the key fob nearby.
 
I don't think it would work without the fob close by either. I had never had a car that you didn't have to push the button on the fob to unlock the door. Actually I just tried it on my CRV and it won't work like the Charger.

I would be curious to find out if any others work like the Charger.
 
I've got an Audi S5. The fob doesn't get touched for locking or unlocking doors, opening the trunk, or starting the engine.
 
I think what part of the stuff covered in the article was the amplifier which read the signal of the fob (has to be transmitting all the time or at least be queried to work in proximity...) and amplified it, which is why they could do this when the fob was nearby but not close enough to activate the system directly.
 
I don't get it. The so-called "signal" from the fob is a unique (and ever changing) digital signal.
 
Making some sense of the article...the fob has a signal, mentioned here, in that new stuff automatically unlocks the door when you get close to the car (several feet). If the "amplifier" can pick up a weak signal, insufficient to trigger the locks, and amplify it locally, they are in.
 
I'd be more inclined to think those type of fobs are passive and use RFID. The car, which has a larger and rechargeable battery would be giving off radio waves all the time until it is activated by the proximity of the fob or whatever these guys are using.
 
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