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Yeah, the LAN bit with Win7 is a bit irritating. I have a Win7 laptop I use for tweaking my car, and for no obvious reason it periodically refuses to show me all the other computers in the WorkGroup.

I'm with ya though. Linux is my primary rig at the hovel. I keep windows around because it does still have its uses. I keep Mac around for work because they provided it.
 
NutmegCT said:
Paul - here's another "memory" for both of us. A Seagate ST506 hard drive from 1980. Stored a whole 5 megabytes, and sold for $1500. Compare that with a multi-gig flash drive today. There were commercial hard drives before the ST506, but this was available for personal computers, either as internal or external Wow.

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People laugh when I tell them that I bought a new computer years ago with a huge hard drive with 164 megabyte capacity. Not much bigger than a 3.5 floppy! Had to shrink everything plus store stuff on floppies to keep from overloading it. My first computer didn't have a hard drive, it had 5.5 inch floppies which everything ran from. I get a kick when people today say how slow their computers are. Just take a jaunt back to the 80s and early 90s then tell us about slow.
 
Way back when, I worked on a system that had 6 dumb terminals, dual 8" floppys and the hard drive was 5MB. The drive was about 18" wide, 12" tall and about 24" deep. It used an optical wheel for indexing. Every few months the drive would go crazy and we would have to open the back and blow the dust out of the optics. That was the first hard drive I saw. What fun.
 
Have a buddy that was a submariner, he tells me the hard drives in the targeting solution computers on his sub were the size of a filing cabinet... Not sure when those drives were installed in the sub, but the sub was decommissioned a couple of years ago.
 
Nunyas said:
Yeah, the LAN bit with Win7 is a bit irritating. I have a Win7 laptop I use for tweaking my car, and for no obvious reason it periodically refuses to show me all the other computers in the WorkGroup.

I'm with ya though. Linux is my primary rig at the hovel. I keep windows around because it does still have its uses. I keep Mac around for work because they provided it.
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I've a client with fifteen workstations, multiple printers and a server, all now Win7 Pro... they constantly complain over the "disappearance" of the workgroup machines. They wanted to blame ME for it, saying the router, WiFi router or the switch must be the cause. Finally convinced 'em it's a Microsoft issue. VERY frustrating. And repolling the LAN will NOT resolve it. IMHO the O/S is heck-bent on listening for a domain controller no matter what. Haven't yet found the hack/crack/regedit to convince it there's no such beast.
 
Doc - what exactly is the problem with Win7 networking? I've got five desktops, networked to a single database server. All using WinXP and WinXP networking. All I did was "share" the server's database folder to the group.

What problems would I encounter trying to do the same setup on the same machines, but using Win7?

Thanks.
Tom
 
Nunyas said:
Have a buddy that was a submariner, he tells me the hard drives in the targeting solution computers on his sub were the size of a filing cabinet... Not sure when those drives were installed in the sub, but the sub was decommissioned a couple of years ago.
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In 1980, the same year that Seagate introduced the first 5.25 " HD disc, IBM introduced the one gigabyte hard drive. It was still the size of a refrigerator, weighed 550 pounds, and cost a bit over $40,000. And only 1 year earlier, IBM was launching a HD with 6, 8-inch discs that stored 64 megs. You can't even buy a small flsh drive any more than holds "only" 64 megs.
 
DrEntropy said:
I've a client with fifteen workstations, multiple printers and a server, all now Win7 Pro... they constantly complain over the "disappearance" of the workgroup machines. They wanted to blame ME for it, saying the router, WiFi router or the switch must be the cause. Finally convinced 'em it's a Microsoft issue. VERY frustrating. And repolling the LAN will NOT resolve it. IMHO the O/S is heck-bent on listening for a domain controller no matter what. Haven't yet found the hack/crack/regedit to convince it there's no such beast.
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Yeah, it's a bit annoying to say the least. On the upside, I did find that when Win7 "can't find" the other computers in the workgroup, I am still able to connect to them the old fashion way (e.g. with the address bar \\hostname\share\ ). So, at least in my situation, it appears to be an aesthetic issue.
 
Here too. If the remote drives or directories are mapped they are there and available all the time. It just refuses to display the workgroup members. And with no consistency.
 
Nunyas said:
Have a buddy that was a submariner, he tells me the hard drives in the targeting solution computers on his sub were the size of a filing cabinet... Not sure when those drives were installed in the sub, but the sub was decommissioned a couple of years ago.
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I was a SINS Tech...Ships Inertial Navigation System...still have the coffee cup and manuals.
Drum memory, and the first Core stack...4K. Hand wound torroidal coils.
Worked, but, geez. Tally Tape reader to load the program whenever you shut it down and started it back up...and it didn't always "take". Output device was an IBM Selectric (still have the manuals and tools for working on them) modified to read signals...and a "waste time" routine to compensate for the mechanical lag.
DOC (Data Output Console) read in Velocity N-S and E-W, plus heading, mechanically (via servos) read out speed over the ground.
When we did a "Northern Run" the Spooks brought more state-of-the-art equipment onboard.
\At the time, the saying was "The United States Navy...200 years, untouched by progress".
At the decommissioning in, oh, 95, one of our old occifers was there...he'd moved into some job after retirement that surveyed boats and equipment...and he told me there were still 637 class boats running the old Sperry system we had. Ours had been "updated" to Mini SINS....still not much better, but the technicians got more out of the old systems than was though possible.
Dave
 
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