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tony barnhill
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Re: Moss wheel bearing quality?
Never had any problems with the ones I've bought.
You can ask them on the phone if they have any history on them...at least I do all the time with items I wonder about.
Never had any problems with the ones I've bought.
You can ask them on the phone if they have any history on them...at least I do all the time with items I wonder about.
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Most of these parts are generic, so they are just ordered from a bearing supplier. I suspect that the supplier varies according to their costs and availability. You can get the same thing by going to a bearing distributor, if you know the type no. There are Timken numbers in the Wiki, Spridgets-Tech Tips section, near the bottom of the page.
If you do use the Usual Suspects, shop around a bit. BP Northwest, for example, is much cheaper, and high cost does not equate to quality in this business.
Most of these parts are generic, so they are just ordered from a bearing supplier. I suspect that the supplier varies according to their costs and availability. You can get the same thing by going to a bearing distributor, if you know the type no. There are Timken numbers in the Wiki, Spridgets-Tech Tips section, near the bottom of the page.
If you do use the Usual Suspects, shop around a bit. BP Northwest, for example, is much cheaper, and high cost does not equate to quality in this business.
Trevor Jessie
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Are we talking front wheel bearings? I won't go into detail, but call Peter C. and ask him what he can supply you.
Are we talking front wheel bearings? I won't go into detail, but call Peter C. and ask him what he can supply you.
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Gundy
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Thanks Tony! I was considering re-using a set in my existing hubs which only have a 1000 miles or so on them but figured
giving the risk of damaging the races and the time involved it would be prudent and cost effective to slap a new set in the new hubs along with new seals. What the heck...they don't cost a fortune and it's cheap compared to my labor costs.
Now I don't have to do them this weekend because the new bearings can't get here till next week. added bonus. Why do today that which can be put off till tomorrow.
Thanks Tony! I was considering re-using a set in my existing hubs which only have a 1000 miles or so on them but figured
giving the risk of damaging the races and the time involved it would be prudent and cost effective to slap a new set in the new hubs along with new seals. What the heck...they don't cost a fortune and it's cheap compared to my labor costs.
Now I don't have to do them this weekend because the new bearings can't get here till next week. added bonus. Why do today that which can be put off till tomorrow.
tony barnhill
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Well, there was another option....take one of your bearings to an old-time parts house where the counter guys know cars....he could probably take the little number off the side of your bearing & cross-reference it to one he has in stock.
Well, there was another option....take one of your bearings to an old-time parts house where the counter guys know cars....he could probably take the little number off the side of your bearing & cross-reference it to one he has in stock.
Trevor Jessie
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Read this
https://www.mgcars.org.uk/mgcc/midgetreg/Frontwheelbearings.shtml
Read this
https://www.mgcars.org.uk/mgcc/midgetreg/Frontwheelbearings.shtml
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Gundy
Luke Skywalker
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Well, I went with my old friend as the supplier. Alan can have me a set first of next week.
They are indeed the front wheel bearings.
My BE has the adapters to run knock on Minilites. This has
generated some additional front track width.
I'm in the process of installing a set of wire wheel hubs on the front to eliminate the adapters. I'll still run the adapters
on the rear to keep the increased the rear track width and
my comp axles.
It APPEARS I'll reduce the track width close to an inch this way. We shall see as the proof is in the pudding as they say.
My goal is to square the front track with the rear.
I know...I know...a lot of hassle for such a small difference.
I just don't like the "unsquare" look of the BE.
If I'm not happy with this...it's off to Acme speed for some custom off sets.
Trevor Jessie said:
Well, I went with my old friend as the supplier. Alan can have me a set first of next week.
They are indeed the front wheel bearings.
My BE has the adapters to run knock on Minilites. This has
generated some additional front track width.
I'm in the process of installing a set of wire wheel hubs on the front to eliminate the adapters. I'll still run the adapters
on the rear to keep the increased the rear track width and
my comp axles.
It APPEARS I'll reduce the track width close to an inch this way. We shall see as the proof is in the pudding as they say.
My goal is to square the front track with the rear.
I know...I know...a lot of hassle for such a small difference.
I just don't like the "unsquare" look of the BE.
If I'm not happy with this...it's off to Acme speed for some custom off sets.
Trevor Jessie
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So... what are the bearing part #'s?
So... what are the bearing part #'s?
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Gundy
Luke Skywalker
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GREAT read! I printed the article and it should help with this project. I love the tip about using a 15/16 socket and a bar to just shear that pin. Thankfully I will just be installing a pin not having to remove one.
I'm calling Alan with those bearing numbers right now!
Trevor Jessie said:
GREAT read! I printed the article and it should help with this project. I love the tip about using a 15/16 socket and a bar to just shear that pin. Thankfully I will just be installing a pin not having to remove one.
I'm calling Alan with those bearing numbers right now!
Hap Waldrop
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David, a good way to go on the front is with tapered bearing conversion, it requires no mods, Winners Circle sells them as kit.
If you don't Winners Circle with the BE of yours, you will before it's over.
David, a good way to go on the front is with tapered bearing conversion, it requires no mods, Winners Circle sells them as kit.
If you don't Winners Circle with the BE of yours, you will before it's over.
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Gundy
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Alan's drawing a blank on the articles #s.
He's looking at a set kit from Quinton Hazell. QWB 105c.
Now I'm nervous and so is Alan. He's used this set many times
before without problem but we don't know if it's face adjusted 40 degree as mention in the aforesaid article.
My front end presently is jam up and jelly tight and I want to
do this right.
How do I reach Peter C.?
Alan's drawing a blank on the articles #s.
He's looking at a set kit from Quinton Hazell. QWB 105c.
Now I'm nervous and so is Alan. He's used this set many times
before without problem but we don't know if it's face adjusted 40 degree as mention in the aforesaid article.
My front end presently is jam up and jelly tight and I want to
do this right.
How do I reach Peter C.?
Trevor Jessie
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Winner's Circle (216) 889-4666
Peter C (800) 362-1025
Winner's Circle (216) 889-4666
Peter C (800) 362-1025
Trevor Jessie
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There are some QH bearings that fit fine. Although they are not spec'd as face adjusted, they just happen to be the correct dimensions. The problem arises when the #'s are cross referenced.
There are some QH bearings that fit fine. Although they are not spec'd as face adjusted, they just happen to be the correct dimensions. The problem arises when the #'s are cross referenced.
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Gundy
Luke Skywalker
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Well....the plot thickens.
Peter C. was a GREAT help. I'm also going to have to use a different rotor it appears. He has the 40 degree , face adjusted bearings and the rotors. Now I'm thinking I may "upgrade" my rotors while I'm at it.
I was checking my BE's spec sheet and lo and behold it has tapered bearings in the front now.
I'm taking a step back this weekend to digest this a little more.
I really want to do this right.
Edit: I need a drink. Taking the BE out for a dinner and cocktails tonight.
Well....the plot thickens.
Peter C. was a GREAT help. I'm also going to have to use a different rotor it appears. He has the 40 degree , face adjusted bearings and the rotors. Now I'm thinking I may "upgrade" my rotors while I'm at it.
I was checking my BE's spec sheet and lo and behold it has tapered bearings in the front now.
I'm taking a step back this weekend to digest this a little more.
I really want to do this right.
Edit: I need a drink. Taking the BE out for a dinner and cocktails tonight.
Trevor Jessie
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If it has the tapers in it now, I would think you could reuse them without problems or issue. And, I totally forgot that you were switching to wire hubs (and thus need different rotor discs... but they are relatively inexpensive).
If it has the tapers in it now, I would think you could reuse them without problems or issue. And, I totally forgot that you were switching to wire hubs (and thus need different rotor discs... but they are relatively inexpensive).
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Gundy
Luke Skywalker
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Dinner was nice. Japanese Hibachi bar. While stuffing my
face tonight I've decided to try just that...re-use existing
tapers. I was also thinking of some slotted rotors. Moss sells them both wire and disc wheels. Any thoughts on those?
They are made by Cobalt. Guess I'll need some new pads too.
Thoughts on those ceramic pads?
Trevor Jessie said:
Dinner was nice. Japanese Hibachi bar. While stuffing my
face tonight I've decided to try just that...re-use existing
tapers. I was also thinking of some slotted rotors. Moss sells them both wire and disc wheels. Any thoughts on those?
They are made by Cobalt. Guess I'll need some new pads too.
Thoughts on those ceramic pads?
Trevor Jessie
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GreenStuff Pads. Skip the slotted rotors, unless you just like the look.
GreenStuff Pads. Skip the slotted rotors, unless you just like the look.