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1985 Volvo DL station wagon
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Let's just say the tug-of-war continues /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif In the meantime I was shown an ad for a Saturn SL1 automatic (I think 1994) for $1,700
Let's see... Which car is more durable? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif The battle continues
Let's see... Which car is more durable? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif The battle continues
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mehheh... Yeah, THAT'LL work.
Better if they're told we're a bunch of English car nuts and have the opinion that the Volvo is a bullet-proof vehicle by comparison....
...err, no, on second thought: a Skoda could be considered reliable compared to something like Tinster's "CryptCar" TR6....
Ah-HA!! Tell 'em to Google it!!! YEAH!! Let th' innernet be your "agent".
That Beast Volvo will outlive most anything built in the last five years, have parts available AND run from wherever it is to wherever you AIM it, with no complaints whatsoever!
Get EVEN: If they need to haul stuff (anything from a flat screen TV to 4'x8' plywood sheets), remind 'em you don't have a truck capable of the task.... "Go rent a Saturn"... or the more *in your face*: "Ummm... it'd cost money to deliver that *.* I guess? I'll need gas money... and some tires..."
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Better if they're told we're a bunch of English car nuts and have the opinion that the Volvo is a bullet-proof vehicle by comparison....
...err, no, on second thought: a Skoda could be considered reliable compared to something like Tinster's "CryptCar" TR6....
Ah-HA!! Tell 'em to Google it!!! YEAH!! Let th' innernet be your "agent".
That Beast Volvo will outlive most anything built in the last five years, have parts available AND run from wherever it is to wherever you AIM it, with no complaints whatsoever!
Get EVEN: If they need to haul stuff (anything from a flat screen TV to 4'x8' plywood sheets), remind 'em you don't have a truck capable of the task.... "Go rent a Saturn"... or the more *in your face*: "Ummm... it'd cost money to deliver that *.* I guess? I'll need gas money... and some tires..."
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Late to the party here....
I had a 122S moons ago. It was great in all regards, except when it snowed. Because, like many Volvos, it was rear wheel drive.
You live in Canada right?
All of this is on my mind right now because it's snowing like crazy right now in New Jersey. This is the time of year when I park my rwd Miata and prefer my fwd minivan. Last night I went blasting past several rwd BMWs in the van. And I watched a rwd Lexus spin in a parking lot.
This time of year, fwd minivans *rule* while rwd Corvettes and MGs hide in shame. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif
I *think* you live in a city area so maybe heavy snow is not an issue (we have a home in a rural area and I had to drive about 1/2 mile through 6" of unplowed snow yesterday.....maybe this never happens to you).
So think about how you're going to use the car.
Maybe you're allowed to use tire chains (we're not), so then you can live with rwd.
I had a 122S moons ago. It was great in all regards, except when it snowed. Because, like many Volvos, it was rear wheel drive.
You live in Canada right?
All of this is on my mind right now because it's snowing like crazy right now in New Jersey. This is the time of year when I park my rwd Miata and prefer my fwd minivan. Last night I went blasting past several rwd BMWs in the van. And I watched a rwd Lexus spin in a parking lot.
This time of year, fwd minivans *rule* while rwd Corvettes and MGs hide in shame. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif
I *think* you live in a city area so maybe heavy snow is not an issue (we have a home in a rural area and I had to drive about 1/2 mile through 6" of unplowed snow yesterday.....maybe this never happens to you).
So think about how you're going to use the car.
Maybe you're allowed to use tire chains (we're not), so then you can live with rwd.
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With due respect to my learned friend Nial (can't you tell that I have watched too much C-Span) I have to qualify a few of his statements. All things being equal he is quite correct, however there are two major variables: Tyres and the loose nut behind the wheel.
I too have a rear-wheel drive wagon, a BMW. As with any wagon, the vehicle is heavier than its saloon-car variant, the extra weight being over the rear wheels.
I have a set of BF Goodrich Traction T/A tyres on my car, and this was the first winter when I have not felt the need to bolt on my snow tyres. You know that Wisconsin has not had an easy, snow-free winter, either. It never does!
Drive with respect for the conditions, mount the right set of rubber, maybe consider snow tyres on a set of steel rims, and you should be fine. I have gone past front-wheel drive vehicles that were all over the road, and more than one SUV in a ditch, using those all-season radials on my car.... and I would bet serious that Nial would be able to out-drive 99% of the population on New Jersey on snow, no matter what he was driving. His racing experience gives him that edge.
Volvos are designed and built in Sweden, where they get more snow than most. So are Hakkepelita snow tyres.
I rest my case /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
I too have a rear-wheel drive wagon, a BMW. As with any wagon, the vehicle is heavier than its saloon-car variant, the extra weight being over the rear wheels.
I have a set of BF Goodrich Traction T/A tyres on my car, and this was the first winter when I have not felt the need to bolt on my snow tyres. You know that Wisconsin has not had an easy, snow-free winter, either. It never does!
Drive with respect for the conditions, mount the right set of rubber, maybe consider snow tyres on a set of steel rims, and you should be fine. I have gone past front-wheel drive vehicles that were all over the road, and more than one SUV in a ditch, using those all-season radials on my car.... and I would bet serious that Nial would be able to out-drive 99% of the population on New Jersey on snow, no matter what he was driving. His racing experience gives him that edge.
Volvos are designed and built in Sweden, where they get more snow than most. So are Hakkepelita snow tyres.
I rest my case /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
I ran my wagon all last winter on Blizzaks, and <u>never</u> had a problem in the snow. Even with the occasional unintended turbo spool up.
I cheated this year and have been driving the 850 (FWD). That had Nokian WR's on it when I bought it. All season tires that exceed the Federal standards for snow tires.
Get the wagon, Sherlock, and never look back!
Jeff
I cheated this year and have been driving the 850 (FWD). That had Nokian WR's on it when I bought it. All season tires that exceed the Federal standards for snow tires.
Get the wagon, Sherlock, and never look back!
Jeff
