• Hi Guest! Being a Paid Subscriber is NOT required to participate at BCF. However, if you enjoy BCF and find our forum a useful resource...
    Please consider supporting us by **Upgrading**
    (PS: Subscribers don't see this banner)
Tips
Tips

1950 Prefect Starter

algot1901

Senior Member
Bronze
Country flag
Offline
I just realized while manhandling the starter, how will the starter react to a 12 volt NEG GRND? From the looks of the starter it will handle 12 volts but the positive to negative might be a problem.
 

Bayless

Yoda
Silver
Country flag
Offline
I think the 12 volts will be all right as long as you don't have to grind for extended time. I have jumped 6 volt cars many times over the years with no problems. The starter on my Prefect came with the 12 volt positive ground '58 Prefect motor. It works fine on negative ground. You will have to repolarize the generator though. It is a simple operation but I never remember exactly how to do it. I always have to look it up.
 
OP
algot1901

algot1901

Senior Member
Bronze
Country flag
Offline
I have been doing my best to set up for 12V then I am thwarted by some quirk of Positive or Negative, I ordered the electronic ign which is 6 V Negative Ground then found out they make a 12V Negative Ground so I had to take a step back and a step sideways. Then the starter came to mind and I know a 6V will take 12 as long as you do not hang on it, again I came to the Positive/Negative Ground and will it work or spin backwards and I have to thank you for the info. I would stay with 6V but there is a problem getting 6V lamps, I have already paid for another car with the exchange rate in Britain. I am looking into the later cars with the 12V starter. I have the engine ready to fire up but for a carb kit and fuel pump kit, will be so happy when I can get away from the grease especially the old grease. Take care and thanks
 

Bayless

Yoda
Silver
Country flag
Offline
No no. Although your starter should work on 12 volts, you will have to get a 12 volt generator. A good generator shop would be able to rewind yours for 12 but it would be a lot more expensive than just replacing it. Mine came with the motor and was already 12 v. You always have to repolarize the generator when you change the polarity, ie. pos to neg earth.
 
OP
algot1901

algot1901

Senior Member
Bronze
Country flag
Offline
Called the local auto electric and he told me that a starter is rather dumb and they do not care if it is 6 or 12 only thing that will happen is the spring that forces the Bendix back will break due to the increased torque and when it does I bring it in and they have some type of gizmo to replace the spring
 

Attachments

  • DSCF0457.JPG
    DSCF0457.JPG
    1.8 MB · Views: 5

waltesefalcon

Yoda
Silver
Country flag
Offline
Called the local auto electric and he told me that a starter is rather dumb and they do not care if it is 6 or 12 only thing that will happen is the spring that forces the Bendix back will break due to the increased torque and when it does I bring it in and they have some type of gizmo to replace the spring
Depending on the design you can also break the starter drive gear with the extra torque.
 
OP
algot1901

algot1901

Senior Member
Bronze
Country flag
Offline
I was thinking about looking into reducing the voltage just a tad only problem will be keeping the amperage up, old cars what a pain my dad is getting even with me in his dust pile
 
OP
algot1901

algot1901

Senior Member
Bronze
Country flag
Offline
.Who me! too much wrong with the car once some starts to hot rod it the value to me is maybe $500.. No running boards, I think the rockers are gone looks kind of different has rust, are ALL the parts there including nuts and bolts it is a gamble. I have to date $4600.00 and I got the car for free so with the asking price and the money to get it going it is over $8000.00 and the car in perfect condition is only worth * grand. What really hurts is the exchange rate of $4600.00 about $600.00 is the exchange rate. From what I have learned is that for new parts Small Spares is the only place to shop $36.00 to ship DHL and it takes 4 days. There are a couple Anglia dealers that I am able to get used parts from and the price is right. I sourced a really nice grille from England that cost $350.00 delivered, Spent $165.00 for a back seat bottom and 2 door glass used just one door glass new from a template is $130.00 bought front and rear bumpers for $60.00.
I have only had one snafu from the Spare Parts and they remedied it fast. I am changing a couple of items, I am adding a remote oil filter adapter and a 12-volt water pump. Was going to go with electronic ignition but I got rather screwed on that deal which cost me a bit over $200.00 to find out it will not fit my distributor there exciter ring is 16.32mm in dia and my shaft is 18.32mm. The instructions say it is a tight fit, and the manufacturer told me it would fit and now they are giving me the run around. This car has not seen daylight since 1963 and never was in a winter road cond as it does not have a heater.
Time for bed
Stay Healthy
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
algot1901 1950 Ford Prefect Paint Other British Cars 5
algot1901 Electronic Ignition for 1950 Prefect 1172cc Eng Other British Cars 10
algot1901 1950 Prefect Headliner Other British Cars 17
algot1901 1950 Prefect/Anglia Trsnmission Main Bearing Retainer Other British Cars 2
algot1901 Rear Seat Bottom/Frame for 1950 Ford Prefect Other British Cars 12
A Body Paint Codes for 1950 Prefect E493A Other British Cars 1
A Rubber parts for 1950 Prefect E493A Other British Cars 6
A 1950 Ford Prefect Windows Other British Cars 4
A 1950 Prefect Vacuum Tank Other British Cars 22
A 1950 Ford Prefect Floor Covering Other British Cars 2
S For Sale MG TD & TF Factory Workshop Manual on CD/ROM. 1950 - 1955 Models. MG Classifieds 0
T For Sale Parting out a 1950 Austin A-90 Atlantic drophead Other British Classifieds 5
J Wanted 1950 Austin sheerline A125 need brakes Other British Classifieds 0
J 1950 Austin a 125 Shoreline need parts FORUM Navigation Questions 2
D 1950 Jaguar Mark V Sunroof Question Jaguar 0
K 1950 Standard Vanguard Other British Cars 2
AUSMHLY 1950 Healey Siverstone Austin Healey 8
B 1950 Rover 75 P4 Cyclops value? Rover / Land Rover 9
L Need help restoring a 1950 Morris Minor FORUM Navigation Questions 0
L Need help restoring a 1950 Morris Minor Other British Cars 2
G Brake fluid recomendations - 1950's JAG XK140 Jaguar 19
Z Austin A70 Hampshire [1950] as a donor car Austin Healey 1
kennypinkerton British Specials... from the 1950's Other British Cars 38
kennypinkerton More specials... 1950's Racing 1
Tullamore 1950 Simca Pinninfarina Sport Huit Other Cars 1
T looking for any info on a 1950 austin A40?? Other British Cars 5
Sherlock TR2/3/3A 1950's Triumph TR2 Francorchamps coupe Triumph 3
KLUTZ 1950 FORD ANGLIA. in Old Car Trader. Other British Cars 13
Kira Smiths Clocks Pre 1950 Other British Cars 6
B 1950 Healey Silverstone D-Type on E-bay Austin Healey 1
bighly 1950 MG YA [For Sale] MG 2
Bayless My Prefect update Other British Cars 5
algot1901 My Prefect in her B-Day Suit and playing with rust-Flash! Other British Cars 19
algot1901 Carburator 50 Prefect 1172cc engine 10hp Other British Cars 4
TRMark Ford Anglia/Prefect USA parts supplier Other British Cars 7
Bayless Even more progress - the Prefect Other British Cars 5
L !953 Ford 4 door Prefect Other British Cars 3
KLUTZ Wow.. A Perfect Prefect ....... Other British Cars 2
A 1949 - 1952 Ford Prefect Other British Cars 9
S Starter Solenoid Nut Size for BJ8 Austin Healey 1
B High-Torque Starter Rattling Noise Austin Healey 3
E TR6 ā€˜74 TR6 Starter & Trans Cover Triumph 13
Jim_Stevens TR2/3/3A Starter/ring gear engagement Triumph 11
J TR6 72 TR6 starter problem Triumph 10
A TR2/3/3A Early TR3 starter (bomb style) bushings sizes Triumph 5
C MGA Change a pull starter to a push button system MG 6
Michael Oritt Starter Button Austin Healey 19
Drone Dog WOSP Starter Austin Healey 8
DrEntropy MGB Replacement starter MG 7
steveg TR6 '74 - Where is the Starter Relay located? Triumph 1

Similar threads

Top