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Oh, that'll buff right out.

At least the seller didn't try to claim they were NOS !
 
I wonder if the $98 shipping includes the rusty crankshaft under the pile?
Tom
 
I had a pile of ZS carbs that looked like that after they sat outside for about a year.
I didn't have the nerve to attempt to sell them as "carburetors" , but a fellow in the community was happy to take them along with his beer cans to the recycler.
 
Would anyone even (ever) consider trying to restore that crank? And, off the topic a bit--did I hear that someone in England is now re-manufacturing TR crankshafts? Was I reading with too hopeful an eye?
 
KVH said:
Would anyone even (ever) consider trying to restore that crank? And, off the topic a bit--did I hear that someone in England is now re-manufacturing TR crankshafts? Was I reading with too hopeful an eye?
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My very quick search turned up nothing but that's not saying it isn't happening. Of course new biillet cranks have been available for quite some time. Pricey and unnecessary for street use, IMO.
Tom
 
Back in the day, the crank would be salvageable. Today, not worth the money. With the used parts market of today, this would not even be worth shipping. Some things may be cleaned and used, but then time would be the consideration to put what little there could be reused.
 
KVH said:
And, off the topic a bit--did I hear that someone in England is now re-manufacturing TR crankshafts? Was I reading with too hopeful an eye?
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Sounds like they are working towards that goal, anyway.
https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/53478-engineering-drawings/

(Sorry for the delayed response, had to remember where I'd read it then find a link.)

As far as the rusty one on eBay; as Larry said, it could be done, but why ??? Good used cranks are readily available for less than it would probably cost to fix that one.
 
There will always be at least one person with an inflated opinion of what something is worth if they see something like "old car I've never heard of" when they found the part. And at least one other person who would hope to sell it to someone who is unfamiliar with the used parts market.
 
You are right. We do plan to manufacture 4-pot cranks.

In India they are already making a similar thing for Ferguson tractors.

We are taking the castings and finish machining them in the UK.

One of the team has magnetic crack-detection kit to check the blanks.
 
Hey Alan John...it's been a while! You do mean you're taking the raw forgings, I hope?
 
The TR cranks are very similar to Ferguson tractors made in the UK in 1950.
This is because they used an engine more or less in common with a Standard Vanguard.
The TR engine was a development of this.

In rural India they have many of these tractors still at work and hence a market for replacement cranks.

On a TR there are different web drillings and radiuses and under cuts and so on to cope with extra rpm.
So we are taking new Indian cast blanks and machining in the UK to TR spec.
 
Been busy building copy wiper-motors for Lotus.

And making 115 degree wiper gears to fix other wiper problems.

And batches of rebuilt original speedo-drives because we are getting rubbish China repro items.

And boot-lids because in the UK they rust out at the lower edge.
 
CJD said:
Hey Alan John...it's been a while! You do mean you're taking the raw forgings, I hope?
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The TR cranks seem to be castings, at least to my poorly informed eye. Were they indeed forged? Tom
 
In the UK we tend use the term "forged" for stuff that blacksmiths hit with a hammer and "casting" for other hot moulded items.
We are probably a bit sloppy about this.
 
alanjohnturner said:
In the UK we tend use the term "forged" for stuff that blacksmiths hit with a hammer and "casting" for other hot moulded items.
We are probably a bit sloppy about this.
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It's the same in the US; although I expect the cranks (like most forged parts in the past 80 years or so) were hammered by machines rather than an actual blacksmith. The pounding modifies the crystal structure, making them stronger than equivalent castings.

Original cranks were forged.
 
TR3driver said:
It's the same in the US; although I expect the cranks (like most forged parts in the past 80 years or so) were hammered by machines rather than an actual blacksmith. The pounding modifies the crystal structure, making them stronger than equivalent castings.

Original cranks were forged.
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Then back to CID's question to John, are the Indian blanks forged or cast?
Tom
 
alanjohnturner said:
And boot-lids because in the UK they rust out at the lower edge.
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I've been experiencing this problem myself this week with the TR2 lid. I could really use your knowledge of metalworking! I can fix it, but I'm not in your class of workmanship.

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