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I just finished reading JP's post about the Sheep Detectives, which looks like a cute movie. Anyway, he mentioned that it is rated PG because it references death, and that got me to thinking. Something that I often see on here is how today's youth is glued to their phones, how they don't want to work, how they don't know how to interact, how they can't function, etc. Have any of us ever really considered that our culture and how we handle children has so drastically changed in the past 40 or so years as to create the most immature generations ever in the history of the world, and it's our fault not theirs, because we raised them. We coddle children far beyond their infancy treating them as if they are incapable of dealing with any responsibility or the realities of life. This is something I've been thinking about for a couple of months now. Two things have happened in the past two or three months involving my daughter that made me think about it. My daughter is 16 and wanted a library card in Lawton, which is about 20 miles away. I told her to drive over and get one, and she said she couldn't get one without me because she is a minor. I distinctly remember riding my bike over when I was about 10 and getting one when we first moved to Lawton. The other thing was when she wanted to adopt a dog from the Elgin pound, which is the next town over. Again, I told her to go do it, as long as she took care of it. Well, guess what else minors can't do anymore. Then, this goes back a bit farther in time, there is the issue of getting a job. It is a lot harder these days for kids to get jobs, Oklahoma now requires anyone younger than 16 to get a permit from their school to allow them to work, and no one under 14 is allowed to have a job. Even if you do have a permit the regulations over how much you can work and when you can work are pretty ridiculous. I don't know about y'all but I have been gainfully employed since I was 12, and no one legislated how much I could work, that was between me and my boss. The Federal gov't pushed the minimum age for tobacco back to 21 a few years ago, 18 year olds aren't mature enough to decide if they want to smoke but they are mature enough to elect the leader of the free world, that's a scary precedent.

We have effectively created a society in which we extend infancy into our kids' 20s and then we sit around and gripe about the youth of today. One of the things that always bugs me about teaching is that I see teachers treat their students like infants and expect them to act maturely. One thing I am often asked by other educators and parents is how I manage to have students that are so responsible and mature. My answer is simple: you can't have it both ways, if you want kids to behave like adults you have to treat them like adults. Give them responsibilities, allow them to fail, teach them what growth looks like and how to get there. I often have kids come back to me after they have gone to college to tell me that while I was the hardest teacher they had I was the one who best prepared them for life after high school. We need to quit looking at our youth and complaining about their immaturity while treating them like infants. As a society we need to get better, we need to start giving kids responsibility again so that they can learn what responsibility is. If we never allow kids to fail, if we don't allow kids to make informed decisions until after they are 21, if we coddle them in childhood, that childhood will extend into their 20s and 30s, and they will never learn independence. It really strikes a nerve with me when I see someone complain about kids but not about how we, as a society, have raised them. We are all culpable for the way this young generation has been raised and we need to take ownership of our failure in raising them.
 
We have effectively created a society in which we extend infancy ... if you want kids to behave like adults you have to treat them like adults. Give them responsibilities, allow them to fail, teach them what growth looks like and how to get there.

Amen to that! After WW2, we seemed to concentrate on getting more and more toys we didn't really need, in order to "keep up with the Jones's". We could have spent more money on improved medical and social services, but instead built sports arenas and paid people bazillions of dollars to play games. The movie Wall-E throws this back in our faces: human muscle and thinking is replaced by machine muscle and machine thinking. Just use AI systems to answer all your questions, but heaven forbid we actually check whether AI is actually right or not (can you say "Hallucinations"?)

Where are most successful EVs made? but we can't afford them due to certain federal actions. Inflation soars, job creation is stagnant. I'm a retired teacher who started with a COL adjusted pension of 3% per year - but our yearly costs for food, heating oil, gasoline, medical care, etc are up 20% year on year.

Sasse's "The Vanishing American Adult" details the declines that the author's seen over the previous decades. Let's have more fun, regardless of how it affects our own people. Nothing wrong with having bigger houses, four car garages, and a dozen "cruises" every year - until you consider what those fun things are replacing.

We're constantly scrolling for "least expensive" things we don't really need, regardless of who and where they're made. The least expensive is usually from China, leading to US job - and quality - loss. A major chip mfr has openings for 5000 workers, but few American workers know how to "learn" anymore - they watch "ow my balls" videos instead.

A friend who reached adulthood in the 1940s and 50s, often refers to those years as "back when we used to actually make things, instead of contracting them out".

ok - I'll cram it, altho' venting helps prevent internal explosions.

TM
 
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We coddle children far beyond their infancy treating them as if they are incapable of dealing with any responsibility or the realities of life.

I keep deleting thoughts and rants as replies! Spot-on, Walter. You're on the Front Lines of an unwinnable battle!!

Ya got GRIT, my friend. (y)
 
I agree with many of the points, but also have to say the work/school laws that we have now make sense to me for protecting school age people, because the power dynamics of work for people of high school age is definately rocked way too far in favor of employers.

A high schooler saying "I can't stay until midnight because I have class tomorrow" would get summarily fired without the law providing some sort of protection. Employers (particularly part time food/retail places that are commonly a person's 1st job) treat their employees horribly and then are the first ones to claim "no one wants to work". Laws requiring employers to take school requirements into account are needed now, because managers and corporations certainly don't give a you-know-what about their workers anymore.
 
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