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indeed.
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Around here I assume the guy at the stop sign is going to dart out in front of me!
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As long as I have been a member of this board, every single incident of this nature has been a version of "Big truck pulls out in front of LBC." I believe this is literally the first "LBC pulls out in front of truck story." Kind of a "man bites dog" event.
GTP1960
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usually (over here anyway) the front driver is NOT at fault in a rear impact collision.
no matter the stupidity involved.
"Rear-End Collisions. If someone hits you from behind, it is virtually never your fault.
The driver of the car that rear-ends a leading vehicle will almost always be considered at least partially negligent. Every driver has a duty to follow other vehicles at a safe distance."
Nolo.com, legal encyclopedia.
dklawson
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Regardless of the Nolo.com information (which includes the phrase "almost always"), the film footage shows "careless and reckless" behavior of the Morgan driver. Surely that film will be made available to the insurance companies. Assuming that the speed of the SUV can be determined from the video and found to be at or under the posted limit, the Morgan driver will almost certainly be found at fault... as he/she should be.
It's a shame it happened at all. It was a bad decision made in a split second.
It's a shame it happened at all. It was a bad decision made in a split second.
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Playing Devils advocate here, although the Morgan driver did something stupid, the driver of the other vehicle doesn't seem to be breaking at all (no break lights) and made no attempt to swerve around the Morgan despite there being plenty of room. I'm guessing the other driver was half asleep himself.
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True but the driver on the roadway has right of way over vehicles entering the roadway. The Moggie driver is at fault - but, it sure seems like he caught the other driver by complete surprise. When my daughter did her driver's test last year the instructor insisted that she physically scan each intersection as she came to it - to the point of seeing her head move. The tester looked for the same thing. I find that more and more I have to assume every other driver is completely thoughtless - and To be honest have had more than my share of brain farts as well.
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I'm with you, Steve. Appears to me that he/she could've done SOMEthing to avoid (or maybe lessen) the impact.
Regardless, the Morgan driver never should've entered the road.
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I wouldn't rule out possibly texting on his cellphone.
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took the words out of my mouth doc... I was thinking about losing an engine on takeoff and have alternate plans in place before things go to e coli
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When my daughter was getting her drivers license I told her she always had to look left,right,left before pulling out. One night she and her friend came home all upset. They had been in an accident. Everyone was ok but there was a lot of metal damage.
Another friend was driving and when I asked my daughter what happened she said he was pulling out and only looked left right. Lesson well learned!
Another friend was driving and when I asked my daughter what happened she said he was pulling out and only looked left right. Lesson well learned!
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This raises the question of what constitutes being "on the roadway and having the right of way"?
Clearly the morg. Had completed his turn & was well down the road before he was struck. Therefore does he now have the right of way over the trailing car....even though he cut him off?
The SUV appears to be driving very fast, (possibly speeding), doesn't brake & makes no evasive move to avoid the front car.
I think a judge would follow the accepted norms & say rear car is at fault.
Not because it's true or right, but because it's easier for the court.
It appears to be a clear case of muddy water.
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or in this case muddy water and a youtube video.
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Hard to tell for sure, but the vehicle that hit the Morgan doesn't really look much bigger than the Morgan (when I am in my TR250 modern Carollas and Civics look huge in comparison) . Likely making it a compact hatch rather than an SUV. But it does confirm my suspisions of what would likely happen if a modern car hit one of "our" cars, as likely to go over as crumple bumper to bumper. Drive em like their motorcycles (assume nobody sees you and avoid potential trouble as much as possible)