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racingenglishcars said:
I am truly impressed by the arrogance and narrow-mindedness of the people on this forum.
You're #1 and we're #23...

That might explain some of it
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(source> https://www2.le.ac.uk/ebulletin/news/press-releases/2000-2009/2006/07/nparticle.2006-07-28.2448323827)
 
Thought I would chime in.

I am a British car enthusiast.

I am a Motorcycle rider.

I am a cyclist.

I have seen the both the most courteous and least considerate people in all three groups.

I always find it interesting when people point out the fact that cyclists don't pay licensing fees. Licensing fees generally help pay for maintaning the roads and running the DMV. I don't know how much wear and tear a bicycle inflicts on the roadway. And it always seems to be the heaviest driver makes fun of the skinny butt cyclsts.

As a cyclist, I have been sworn at, targeted by both bottles and fruit, and been run off the road. Most the time, when riding by myself, in the far right part of the lane.

There was an observation that there was a major cycling event in the Woodland CA area at the same time as a British car meet. That ride is the Davis Double Century, an event that has taken place on the thrid weekend of May for the last 40 years. It is a one day 200 mile ride, not race. I have completed it 3 times.

When we are planning events in my club, I try to help build awareness of the other groups using the road. That's when I am with my cycling club or my British car club. I try to inform whoever I am with about events of the other group.

Sometimes I jokingly say that I ride my bike to make me feel safe on my motorcycle, and I ride my motorcycle to make me feel safe while driving my TR3.

Next time you are out, PLEASE note the cyclists/bikers/drivers who are being courteous and following the rules of the road. They are the 95% that we never hear about or remember.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]Next time you are out, PLEASE note the cyclists/bikers/drivers who are being courteous and following the rules of the road. They are the 95% that we never hear about or remember.[/QUOTE]
Well said....

Y'day I was out on one of our fun, curvey roads in one of my MG's, just having fun after all the tribulations of the day....came around a curve over a little rise & saw 2 cyclists up ahead just having fun themselves, riding along side-by-side...I beeped my horn, they waved & fell into single file, I passed & waved over my shoulder as I got out front...they returned my wave as they drew up side-by-side again.

That's the way it should work!
 
tony barnhill said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]Next time you are out, PLEASE note the cyclists/bikers/drivers who are being courteous and following the rules of the road. They are the 95% that we never hear about or remember.
Well said....

Y'day I was out on one of our fun, curvey roads in one of my MG's, just having fun after all the tribulations of the day....came around a curve over a little rise & saw 2 cyclists up ahead just having fun themselves, riding along side-by-side...I beeped my horn, they waved & fell into single file, I passed & waved over my shoulder as I got out front...they returned my wave as they drew up side-by-side again.

That's the way it should work!
[/QUOTE]


By yourself or small groups it works that way. A pack of them like I see once a week they don't care.

Don
 
donbmw said:
tony barnhill said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]Next time you are out, PLEASE note the cyclists/bikers/drivers who are being courteous and following the rules of the road. They are the 95% that we never hear about or remember.
Well said....

Y'day I was out on one of our fun, curvey roads in one of my MG's, just having fun after all the tribulations of the day....came around a curve over a little rise & saw 2 cyclists up ahead just having fun themselves, riding along side-by-side...I beeped my horn, they waved & fell into single file, I passed & waved over my shoulder as I got out front...they returned my wave as they drew up side-by-side again.

That's the way it should work!


By yourself or small groups it works that way. A pack of them like I see once a week they don't care.

Don [/QUOTE]
Yep...Saturday mornings when the entire club hits the road together, they won'd do it...they'll hog the road 3 or 4 abreast & pop a finger over their shoulder! By & large, unfortunately, that's the case around here.
 
One other thing...

I don't think gas prices are ever going to go down. I think there will be a lot more cyclists and motorcycles on the road as we drive. I've also noticed a lot more 1960-1970s European cars on the road (Must have dusted off the old MGB sitting in the garage).

One of my co-workers was driving from Fresno to San Diego thia weekend, usually a 7 hour drive. She did it in 5 because no one was on the road...
 
gsalt57tr3 said:
One other thing...

I don't think gas prices are ever going to go down. I think there will be a lot more cyclists and motorcycles on the road as we drive. I've also noticed a lot more 1960-1970s European cars on the road (Must have dusted off the old MGB sitting in the garage).

One of my co-workers was driving from Fresno to San Diego thia weekend, usually a 7 hour drive. She did it in 5 because no one was on the road...


I think you are right. We are starting to more on the road here also.
 
I've dropped my top speed down to 60 & am seeing a much better gas mileage - plus, I won't be getting speeding tickets anymore!!
 
"Without seeing the accident, fault cannot be laid on the biker.#

- The article indicates that it was a sanctioned event. That means they had the right to be in the lane. When there is a sanctioned event, the bicyclists are TOLD to use the motoring lane. They don't have the knowledge in that case to expect a motorist coming along in the lane they were told to use.

"A San Juan to Mayaguez bike run on a saturday morning??- 100 miles.
2 hour staggered race start. One entire lane of the road blocked
by these ballet dancer looking bikers. It took me and the Mrs
5 bloody hours to drive 81 miles to our beach resort reservation."

- Again, a sanctioned event! If you don't like it, tell the city council. (But don't bet on them agreeing with you)

"I wanted to smash a few myself, with their brightly colored outfits
up in the air, hogging my road!!"

- Being a sanctioned event, it isn't your road!

"There oughta be a law."

- There IS a law. When it's an event, it's THEIR road.

"I was a biker for 40 years- we wore leather and it was one color-black."

- The brightly coloured outfits are to help the motorists see them - for safety.

"It's rare you see anyone sitting in the passing lane (called fast lane here in the US)"

- That's because it's illegal.

"they'll hog the road 3 or 4 abreast & pop a finger over their shoulder! unfortunately, that's the case around here"

- That's because you live in Alabama. Here we have bicycle lanes to keep the motorists off our backs.

"Bikers who hog the road & put both themselves & auto drivers in danger deserve what they get!!"

- Remember... In an encounter between a motor vehicle and a bicycle. It's ALWAYS the bicycle that looses.
I wouldn't think of going out and shooting another person, but motor vehicle drivers think that because they are bigger, it isn't their responsibility any more. Suddenly it's the bicycle who should get out of the way.

Gosh, I'm sorry Mrs Sanchez. Your husband is dead because he's got a skinny as* on a skinny as* bicycle, and got in MY way on MY road. Tell your daughter he isn't coming home anymore. I'm sure she'll understand.

"When a cyclists speed and a motorized vehicle's speed become the same, the cyclist need not stay right. (as in town)"

- True, and I do it at right turn lanes, but that isn't the law here.

"In fact it is preferable if the cyclist moves to the center of the lane for visibility."

- Bicycles must stay to the right here.

"On all public roads cyclists have the same rights AND responsibilities as motorists."

- Yes, except they must stay to the right. Furthermore, here the car is ALWAYS at fault in ANY encounter with a bicycle. Period!

"I almost passed out from low blood sugar waiting on these
pretty boys to move on out!!"

- You were therefore not in responsible condition to drive the car. That is illegal here, and certainly irresponsible there.

"And they do not "pay the same road taxes as everyone else"! At least not in Alabama...part of the drivers license fee goes into the general fund which is used for road repairs! As does part of the taxes I pay when I license my cars every year." "Cyclists" don't pay those taxes!"

- Roads are defined by number of instances of 10 ton axle travel. For example a road could hold to 1000000 ten ton axles driving across it before it needs rebuilding. the damaging affect of lesser weight vehicles is reduced by the cube of the weight reduction. The same road would hold to 8,000,000 five ton axles or 1,000,000,000 one ton axles (two per two ton car). Or 37,000,000,000 Bugeye Sprites. A bicycle and rider weigh 100 kg with two axles. The same road would hold to 8,000,000,000,000 bicycles.
It's the heaviest trucks that should pay the largest share.

"That photo is horrific, but it's far more shocking to see the responses posted about it!"

- I agree completely. I have been up half the night with anxiety thinking about the completely stupid responses posted on this thread and the attitudes of some people. People whom I have a relationship to and a common interest.
In the interest of being non-political, I won't mention anything about U*A and the average mass of it's inhabitants. Furthermore, fresh fruit IS desert!

"By paying road tax on a car but not using it (riding a bicycle instead), the cyclist is the one getting the bad deal. You're coming out ahead."

- Yes, and I have 6 cars, paying an enormous amount to the state, while I ride my bicycle 20 km each day to work.

"Indeed. It's very difficult to obtain a driver's lisence
"

- and costs about $1500.


Face it. Bicycles will be here for 1000 years after gasoline engines are dead and gone.
 
I guess I'm much more used to being delayed on account of growing up in the middle of Amish country.

Where you have to wait for these all the time.

amish2.jpg


And farm equipment...And tourists.

The one thing that makes me loose my mind is a traffic jam :madder:
(Fortunately, we don't have them here :thumbsup: )
 
When it is a sanction event the fault lies with that law inforcement for not having traffic block as needed. But this kind of accident has happen with parades.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]I have been up half the night with anxiety thinking about the completely stupid responses posted on this thread and the attitudes of some people. People whom I have a relationship to and a common interest.
In the interest of being non-political, I won't mention anything about U*A and the average mass of it's inhabitants. Furthermore, fresh fruit IS desert![/QUOTE]
I live in the USA and I won't disagree with you. Perhaps it's the isolation from the rest of the world (we have only two borders and one isn't much different from here) but many Americans are very close-minded compared to European countries. Still, we aren't half as bad as many places I've been but it's always depressing to come home and see the differences in various areas including the incredibly selfish and violent attitudes of drivers.

It will likely never change, and in fact will probably get worse with time, so I've learned to simply deal with it. Kind of fun to see the look of surprise on other driver's faces sometimes when I show courtesy toward them in heavy traffic. :smile:
 
racingenglishcars said:
Furthermore, fresh fruit IS desert!




No. Gobi and Sahara are <span style="font-weight: bold">deserts</span>. Fresh fruit is <span style="font-weight: bold">dessert</span>.

Speaking of which, is irony an alien concept in Denmark? Did the :devilgrin: emoticon in my original message fail to provide a clue to the tone of that sentence?

This concerns me greatly. I'll gladly dumb down my English to a level that <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> will be able to fully comprehend. If you need to have all words spelled phonetically and limited to single syllables, just let me know. :devilgrin:

<span style="font-style: italic">That</span> was sarcasm, by the way.
 
angelfj said:
Sheesh! What a bore!

Oh yes. That's me.

A bore. Close-minded. Intolerant.
 
alana said:
Isn't irony what the laundry guy does to your shirts?

Yes, and it can become a bitter task if too much starch is used in the process.Many a fine shirt has been fractured beyond repair by an overzealous use of starch during irony.
 
All kidding aside:

You've told us that you ride a bicycle 20km to your workplace. How cold are Danish winters?

Denmark is part of Scandinavia, and I've always imagined that it would be frigid in the wintertime. Is that a misconception or do you wear special winter riding gear?
 
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