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jaybird

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Zoe (our pup) messed up her leg yesterday afternoon chasing the neighbor's cat. Frequent game between the 2 critters. She favored it instantly, hobbling back into our yard. A couple hours later, it was to the point she had her back leg drawn up to her body and was barely moving at all. Laid on the bedroom floor all evening, didn't come out of the bedroom this morning when Chuck got up (this dog is a permanent attachment to Chuck, to the point she waits outside the bathroom door for him). I knew it was a serious injury.

I called the vet when they opened at 8, took her in. They kept her (sedated her and took xrays) but the vet (a long time friend/acquaintance) was certain it was her ACL.

Called them at 2. Zoe ruptured her ACL and there is also some cartilage damage. Without surgery, in 6+ months, she will have limited mobility and a very small percentage of stability back in that leg. Certain arthritis and degeneration. Our vet doesn't do this sort of 'specialized' surgery and referred us to two places.

The vet I called is out of the office until Saturday morning but wanted all the related paperwork/test results faxed over for him to review before he calls us.

$2000 for ACL surgery on a 9 1/2 year old 'dumped on the doorstep' mongrel? Absolutely. Without hesistation.

And I've always known if anything ever happened, cost wouldn't be taken into consideration. Basil's loss has only intensified that for me.

Zoe ceased being just an animal the day we brought her home at 5 weeks.

Chuck asked me how much I would spend on this dog. I said, "At least as much as I would on you."
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Makes perfect sense to me.
 
Yep, afraid so. When we take a pet on it is part of the responsiblily we accept.
 
Thoughts for the best. Hope all goes well.
 
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Chuck asked me how much I would spend on this dog. I said, "At least as much as I would on you."
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well said.

BTW what is an ACL?

mark
 
anterior cruciate ligament (my son had both his reconstructed, soccer injuries)
 
Anterior Cartilage Ligament or something like that. It's used to refer to one of those more common knee type injuries that pro-athletes get due to the specific area and components of the knee that gets injured.
 
There is no question. You take care of the "buds" in the family, just like the family that they are.
 
Zoe's home. Chuck brought her home about 4. She's still laying exactly the same spot on the floor where he laid her nearly 6 hours ago. Must have been some really great drugs they knocked her out with for the xrays and tests!

Vet that I'm going to talk to about the surgery is out of the office until Saturday morning. Our vet faxed over all the paperwork and reports, I have her xrays. I'll talk to him, then the orthovet specialist and make a decision on who is doing the surgery. My non-pet-owning daughter was slightly appalled at the price ($251 today and then the cost of surgery).

Willie's right, anterior cruciate ligament. The anterior ligament is on the front of the leg, the posterior in the rear. Fairly common in dogs, usually happens when they twist on their hind legs. I figure Frankenkitty next door made a sharp 90 like she always does to duck under the fence and Zoe tried to stop and turn while running full speed. Vet gave us a script for an anti-inflammatory 2x a day and the dog is still out for the count on a blanket in the living room. Suppose I need to try to get her outside and carry her to her bed in the bedroom! 42 pounds of drugged dog weight is going to seem like 142 isn't it?
 
In a way, the pet thing is a little like the car thing. If you get it, you get it. No amount of explainin' will ever open the eyes of those that don't get it. But you share the instant bond, worldwide,with those that "get it" I get it. There is no choice here, it just has to be.

Good luck, and a swift recovery to you
Jesse
 
jaybird, sorry to learn of the pups missfortune,just last night while brushing my long haired cat i snagged the brush on something in his fur, happened to be a rather full bellyed tick, even though i buy the more expensive meds for him it just didnt work,i had to rub the effected area with alcohol,(no not the capt morgan i like) then take him to the vet. before work, and he addopted us allmost 3 years ago,when ya love em ya love em,ya cant help but love em,or ya down right not human, i busted up my acl. in a ski accident several years ago im glad my wife didnt put me down though im not sure she feels the same way now,i pray for your pups positive outcome and sending all my hope! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/savewave.gif
 
Zoe's hanging in there. Anesthesia from the tests yesterday kept her pretty much zonked through the night yet. Drug her bed out to the kitchen, she spent most the day there. Chuck was up at 5:30 this morning building a ramp from the patio door so she doesn't have to do the 2 steps, she's scared to death of the ramp, so I'm hauling her in and out. Isn't eating much, although she will when she's hungry. Not sure what affect the anti-inflammatory (Rimadyl) is having. Can tell she doesn't feel right, but I think a lot of it is that she can't use that back leg and she's 'confused' as much as anything. Did JUMP up on the sofa earlier with Chuck before we could stop her, 'winced' a bit, but had that 'ouch but that was worth it' look on her face.

The vet we were referred to is still out of town until Saturday morning (lousy timing, I would have liked to had this surgery over by now) - imagine he'll see her Saturday after he reviews the tests etc., and hopefully do the surgery Monday.

On the upside, I'm toning my biceps lifting this 42 pound dog in and out of the house and duh, carrying her down the hall so she can go to bed.
 
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I've had 2 ACL reconstructions on my right knee and should have a third. Tore the original in a skiing accident. First fix was an autograft; tore that after about 5 years. Second fix was a graft from a cadaver; that lasted about 2 more years.

I'm told that I had some of the best ortho surgeons in the business do the repairs. I've determined that God did not intend for me to have an ACL in that leg.

So instead, I wear a megabuck brace for skiing/tennis/hoops.

Hope the pooch has a speedy recovery; if the canine therepy is anything like the human version, I wish him the best.
 
My youngest had both his done with a patellar tendon graft and is playing soccer again and no problems. My older son had his one done with a hamstring graft 6 weeks ago.
 
jaybird, be carefull lifting the pup! we dont want her down with that acl problem, and have you down with a back injury! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nonod.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/savewave.gif
 
Good luck...as pet owners our family has spend many thousands of dollars on "adopted" animals. I'm convinced animals pick families to stray to. We spend over 3k on an adopted from the local pound as she was being prepped to die. On the table, city employee with the gas chamber warming up. Grabbed her and ran...they didn't even charge for her as they were sure we'd bring her back. Packed her off on a long trip to a weiner specialist in South Texas..rebuilt her blown discs and other damage and she lived to be 17. Passed away in my arms this past April 13th.We have pics of her, as well as all our other pets, both living and gone, around our house. Keeps them alive. Our son has a Dalmation that like alot of them has kidney stones. From the beginning our family vet has said"quality of life issues" After being on Science Diet UD(very expensive prescription dog food) filtered and bottled water..and never having table scraps or evn chewy toys his entire life...Indica is a big healthy, child loving mutt. Has had countless bladder and even urethra(sp) bypass surgeries. He no longer passes urine from the normal position...but from a location a bit aft and to the side. One leg lift misfire and he adjusted and is fine. Money means nothing...I'd sell a B to pay for an operation in need be.
 
Our new dog, Max "I am very popular with the ladies" only has 3 legs. We knew going in to the adoption that he'd have to have heartworm treatment. We could have let the shelter in Orlando do it at no cost to us, but we figured that since we had made the commitment of giving this guy a home, we wanted to minimize the trauma of taking him back and forth for the treatment, so we had the treatment done locally at considerable expense. So far we've probably spent about 1k on him and we don't even blink. He's part of the family and that's all there is to it.

No current pictures of Max, but here's a link with some ( and a bit of history on him ). He's at the bottom of the page:https://www.people.ku.edu/~cadavis/Club114.shtml

BTW, I had a Lab mix who blew out both rear knees. after surgery, the only effect it seemed to have was to make him sit in the "cattledog slouch" position! Other than that, he was just as fine as before.

Good luck with yours
 
Cattledog slouch position! Zoe is part border collie, part Australian shepard...that's the ONLY sit position she knows. These dogs are sloppy sitters.

NOW to get her out of my bedroom where she's been the past 12 hours. I'll carry her outside, bring her bed in here in the sun by the patio window. I hope that vet calls 1st thing in the morning...I'm getting edgy.
 
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