Didn't ask! I use all methods. Once at a light aircraft shop the mechanic and an A&P couldn't get the brakes bled on a Stearman. After a few minutes the boss asked if his plane was ready, they said, no! More bleeding, more gravity bleeding, still no brakes. While watching, I finally said hit the caliper with a long wrench while pressuring. Sure enough the bubbles came out. The question was, after trying to bleed for an hour, you never said anything. I responded with, got tired of watching and you did not ask.