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What year and model number is this 1275?

smaceng

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Hey guys and gals,
this is the engine that came with my BE. Any idea what year and model it is? No model number tag on it. Thanks
Scott
 

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4 blade fan, thermostat goes to passenger side, generator and a smoothcase gearbox, yet it may have a spin-on oil filter.
I'll go out on a limb here and say I have no idea.
I wouldn't even be 100% sure, unless it was apart, that it would be a 1275.
 
The head is a 1275 for sure as the heater valve take-off is at 45 degrees to the rockershaft centerline. The dizzy looks to be a 25 series. Steve, where's the tach connection you mentioned? Are you talking about the head on the back of the generator?

The following is as much a question as an observation. Did the 1275 inline A-series (from the 1960s) NOT have removable tappet chest covers? The picture above looks like the "back" of the block has no removable covers. I also don't see a place on the back of the block for the mechanical fuel pump.
 
No tappet covers or mech fuel pump area on 1275.

I was wondering about the breather "can" on the timing chair cover?

I'm not home right now so can't go and look at my engines (two 1275s, a 948 and a dissassembled 1098) to see which ones had this....I dont'think they all did (I can't recall).

The tach drive is at the back of the generator....that's an early generator for sure.
 
Cast into the block under the exhaust manifold is a circle with a month and year the block was cast.
 
Here are some additional pictures. The generator has the tach drive, so it was from a 948. The block does not have tappet covers and it has a tag which says "1275" Terry Horler's book said that the 1275 did NOT have the vent tube on the top of the rockers. The rocker cover may be from an earlier model. The block is embossed with a "12G 949" in the left-rear corner, has a number "03G" embossed at the left front and the number "088" or "880" depending if you are right side up or not. Just to help out, the carbs do not have tags, but are 1 1/4".
 

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Obviously the generator is early mechanical tac drive, the valve cover is also early so the breather can go to the front carb air cleaner. Looks like an early fan set up as well.

The breather on the timeing chain cover is correct for a 1275 and of course the cast block for the manual fuel pump and the lack of tappet chest covers make it a 1098 or a 1275.

I am going to guess at a 1098.

Hay where are the experts on engines today?
 
Not a 1098-CG or 998. It looks like it may be made up of a combination of 1098 CC and 1275 to me.
 
1275 cc blocks did not have tappet covers.

Therefore they did not leak as the small bore blocks were prone to!!!!!!!

Steve
 
1275 block and head, looks like a thick flange 1275, kinda of hard to see with the "blue goop" spread between it and the pan to say.
If so it's an early 1275.
With the engine tag gone it’s a fair bet it's been reworked and over bored once but strange it still carries the alumn tag listing 1275(hot tanks eat both). Given that none of the 1098's cc or cg were without tappet areas and their covers, we know it’s a 1275 with some 948 bits thrown in for good measure.
"dug"

And yes it's true 1275's didn't have tappet covers when configured as inline engines from the factory but not true when transverse fitted, i.e. Cooper S
 
Dug said:
And yes it's true 1275's didn't have tappet covers when configured as inline engines from the factory but not true when transverse fitted, i.e. Cooper S

Gee, I thought that the inline transmission attached precluded any transverse application on this one???

Steve
 
Sorry Steve,
Wasn't thinking only of the attached picture, just the 1275cc block(s) did not have tappet covers.... no disrespect meant or implied.

"dug"
 
No problem, DUG

I would tear it down in a heartbeat.

Could have a magic EN40B Crank hidden inside with standard mains and rods? <GRIN>

Steve
 
It a 1275 for sure, and that a smog area head, which makes it a 12G1316, so the mystery is pretty much over, as mentioned earlier, no A-series except the 1275 was ever produced void lifter cover on the block. From there basicly all inline 1275 engines are the same, in the early 1275s the was a block is solid under the center main webbing in the block, and these block most often had the coveted EN40B crank, but the other block only have a small pie shaped opening in the center main webbing, and had the EN16T crank, the same crank, just tuffrited intead of nitrited and made of EN16 sreel rather than EN40 steel.

Side note: Some 1275 engines do in fact have mechanical fuel pump blanking plate, Ray's engine, that I'm building right now is a late 72-73 block and it has mech. fuel pump blanking plate, on Rays motor I will be using the earlier pre smog head, 12G940 so we keep the "earlier feel" to the entire 1963 "project Spridget".

Some of the early 1275s were higher compression from the factory, but that's no big deal if you are rebuilding, you can use the AE21253 pistons with it's higher compression height and make it a higher compression engine for the cost of a set of pistons, cheap horsepower. With just the addition of the AE21253 pistons you can get a 1275's comprtession ratio to around 9.5 to 1 with a virgin block and head deck.

The great thing about a 1275 is you have so many choices in aftermarket goodies, you can go hog wild like we are doing with Ray's motor or you can pick and choose the best bang for the buck, and get good improvement rather cheaply.
 
My Mini's 1275 has the 12G940 head and 21253 pistons Hap mentioned. Combined with the SW5 cam it's a very nice peppy street engine.

Steve, I think Dug's reply about the transverse engines and tappet chests was in response to my first post.
 
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