Up-date...she is in primer!

[wifegonnakillme]

Update...she is in primer!

The body shop guys are really moving along, the TR3 is now in the second of three primer coats and is starting to look less like potential and more like reality!
Next week the various trim bits and dash get fitted (I guess they do all the bending of stone guards, fender bead etc while in primer to avoid scratching the fresh paint) and then on to paint possibly as early as Friday,
Cheers,
Kerry /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thirsty.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/canpatriot.GIF

 

[MDCanaday]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

Kerry I hate to say it but, a real pro NEVER primes something 3 times. Our shop primer is over 150$ a gallon. There is no need for the excessive film thicknesses that will result from this. Thick paint/primer films crack and chip much more easily than a thinner (as manufacturer recomended) buildup.
As for trim going on now??? you gotta be kidding me, total BS IMHO. I hope it looks better than I think it will when its done......
MD(mad dog)

 

[Adrio]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

Looks good Kerry. What are you going to do for a dash?

 

[wifegonnakillme]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

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Kerry I hate to say it but, a real pro NEVER primes something 3 times. Our shop primer is over 150$ a gallon. There is no need for the excessive film thicknesses that will result from this. Thick paint/primer films crack and chip much more easily than a thinner (as manufacturer recomended) buildup.
As for trim going on now??? you gotta be kidding me, total BS IMHO. I hope it looks better than I think it will when its done......
MD(mad dog)

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Well, from what I've seen of this guy his product is solid and he comes recommended by a local legend...he is using a dupont process, each primer is a different color, the last is very thin and black and when the do the sanding it allows them to see all remaining highs and lows - according to him there is not much left of the primer when they are done this stage - btw, he owns a couple of healys and a tr3 himself, all of which he has done and the two i saw looked awsome...but only time will tell...
On the trim, he wants to ensure that new pieces, like the grill and stone guards actually fit before going to paint, if there is any bending and fitting he wants to do this now so there is no damage to the final paint (he removes them before putting on the final coats) - this is particularly an issue with the fender bead, here i think he pre sprays the gap, fits it partially, raises it and tapes it off for final paint and then pushes it home after the final coat has been applied.
The shop has already done a number of free extras including blasting and painting parts like the old dash and top frame and i am promised the rims as well -
Adrio, I think i am going with the non-stock solid mahogany dash that came with the car, although the old dash sure cleaned up well,
Here's hoping your concerns aren't warrented MD, but thanks for the heads up,
Kerry /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/canpatriot.GIF

 

[Dugger]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

The additional coats of 'primer' are known as 'skim' coats applied over the base primer and mostly removed during the sanding/smoothing process. From what I have read this is the best way to remove those 'waves' in the sheetmetal which are so prevelant in the BL cars.

Sounds like your body shop is on the right track.

 

[wifegonnakillme]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

Just dropped by this morning on the way in to work - that last black coat truely is a dusting and once sanded is almost completely gone except for the smallest pits which show up quite clearly after sanding and can be addressed before final coats,
cheers,
k

 

[Bruce Bowker]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

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As for trim going on now??? you gotta be kidding me, total BS IMHO.
MD(mad dog)

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If you read his post again he is saying that they are just (I hate the prefix pre but-)pre- fitting the pieces, not permanently installing. A good practice.

 

[Keoke]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/savewave.gif HI Bruce, Me thinks that "PRO Shop" needs to take a few pointers on how to paint correctly from others as presented on this thread.---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif

 

[Simon TR4a]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

The first coat was probably high-build primer to fill sanding scratches, I have heard the term "guide coat" used of the very light black coat as sanding it down gives a guide to where the panels are not level or "fair". The dark colour remains in the low spots. I am sure MadDog just didn't equate this with your description of 3 coats of primer; I misunderstood at first too.
I assume you are not painting the engine bay, as we can see through the headlight hole some of the old red paint, or perhaps this will be done later?
There also seems to be a rather jagged hole in the apron, behind where the grille will go,I don't know TR3's well enough to know if that is supposed to be there, and some unfinished welding seams in the well behind the front wheel, so I suppose there are a few details still to attend to.
Interesting to see the pictures as my car will be going through this soon so its good to have a comparison.
Thanks for posting the pictures, and hope it turns out really nice! Good luck!
Simon

 

[wifegonnakillme]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

Hi Simon,
The hole you see in the apron is where the mount for the hand crank was - and may still go back (the newer rad that is in the car blocks the path of the crank so this does not serve much purpose in this car other than authenticity).
This was a body on, and more specifically, engine in paint job - the way the body shop approached it was to focus on the exterior panels and make them perfect while just sanding the interior panels to make them paint ready. When I dropped by this morning they were removing smaller bits and taping the engine bay as best they could for its primer - next they will paint the interiors of the primed doors, trunk, bonnet, engine bay etc before moving on to painting the final coats on the exterior body.
It was a mixed blessing that they discovered a leaky gas tank yesterday and removed it - good from the perspective of better to discover it now and while it is out it gives better access to that area for painting - bad in that I have to have the tank either recoated or replaced,

The seems in the wheel wells should be fixed up, but I haven't discussed with them if and what type of paint coverage should be there...

Will post by weekend or early next week a shot or two with color on...

Cheers,
Kerry /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/canpatriot.GIF

 

[wifegonnakillme]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

Here is a shot with the black and some of the bay showing - think they will get further in on the pots on the final when the car is jacked up,
Cheers,
Kerry /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/canpatriot.GIF

 

[Adrio]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

looks good Kerry. Is that the final colour I see inside the "mouth"? Let plan on an other lunch time walk next week so I can see it first hand.

 

[wifegonnakillme]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

yup - but looks greener here than in daylight - sure we can walk up on Monday or Tuesday...
Kerry

 

[Webb Sledge]

Re: Update...she is in primer!

Our shop uses 3 coats of primer, but only the first coat is very thick. We sand down the first coat pretty good, apply a light coat to cover up the metal that was exposed during sanding, sand that with finer grit paper, and then apply another coat and sand with much finer grit, and then paint goes on.