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TR4/4A TR4A window/door crank handle removal?

karls59tr

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I'm replacing the door panels. what is holding them on a C spring of some sort?Do I need a special tool to remove the handles? thx Karl
 
Is it like the six, with the rod thru the stem?
 
That's about it, Don (and Karl). Push on the plastic escutcheon and you'll see holes in the base of the handle. All you need is a small-diameter punch or even a small Phillips screwdriver to push the pin through.

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The above is for a Herald, but the same principle applies. See parts 46-49 and 59-62 for the handles and their bits. (Note that the spring is behind the door panel, of course!)
 
Karl, for putting it back on there is a clothes hanger trick that works pretty slick. If you are interested ask.
Most know it.
 
If you have an assistant available -- I have my wife stand outside the door and press in on the panel, holding it there while I remove or install the pin.
 
DNK said:
Karl, for putting it back on there is a clothes hanger trick that works pretty slick. If you are interested ask.
Most know it.

For those who are interested, here's the clothes hanger trick as was once demonstrated at one of our TR tech sessions.

Since it can be difficult to get that small pin back in place, someone came up with this method many moons ago.

Take a straight length of hanger, maybe 5"-6" long and mark on one end the length of the pin that came out. There you will cut through the hanger piece about 3/4s of the way through. Now you have the "pin" at the end of your handy installation tool. Once in position, simply bend the hanger piece and snap off the pin neatly in place. :smile:
 
Only trouble is a: most coat hangers today are plastic; and/or b: the metal ones are much thinner than they used to be. I've a miniature pair of side-locking pliers (and a similar tiny "needle-nose" vise-grip-style pliers) that works well for holding and inserting the original pins...assuming you didn't drop it on your gravel driveway and lose it.... :smile:
 
To tell you the truth, I never have used the method I described above. I have a small, curved hemostat that I use to hold the pin.

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Art, used those in a earlier time for something else...maybe...? :wink:
 
The trick I've evolved to over the years is to use a small scratch awl to both push out the pin, but also its very handy when installing - get everything in place then use the scratch all to lock in the handle etc. Then from the other side use a forceps or needle nose and push the pin in. As the pin goes in, the awl comes out. That probably doesn't make much sense but trust me, once you mess with these things, especially with the spring behind the escutcheon - you'll want to perfect a method!
 
TR3driver said:
Perhaps, but they are a common hobby tool and readily available to the layperson.

I think you can get a set of variously shaped instruments at HF for a reasonable price.
 
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