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TR Transmission Conversion
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Webb Sledge
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I'd be interested in the same conversion for a TR6. 6 Speed, if cost efficient, would be even better.
jsneddon
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I see a guy on Ebay all the time selling those Toyota Celica 5 speed conversions for Triumphs. I have no idea how well they work though.
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I have the kit from HVDA. Herman is a perfectionist, does a tremendous engineering job and will bend over backwards to help you get it working. Quality is high-end throughout!
I picked up a Supra 5-speed from ebay for $200 for my conversion. Mine is installed but I haven't driven it since my car is not ready but I did drive a friends and it looked no different from the stock TR and drives a lot smoother.
The clutch is lighter and uses a hydraulic T/O bearing that eliminates the TR slave cyl. The new T/O requires only about a 1/2" press of the pedal to disengage the pedal so you need to put a pedal stop on the floor using a bolt and double nuts to prevent you from pushing it in too far. The five speed it where it's great on the highways. The Toyota transmission is Japanese smooth, has similar gearing in 1-4 but you can get a couple of different model trannies with slightly different ratios.
Not cheap, somewhat less than a rebuilt TR overdrive(around $1200 complete with everything except the tranny), but much less complicated to install and maintain, and retains the original look.
PeterK
I picked up a Supra 5-speed from ebay for $200 for my conversion. Mine is installed but I haven't driven it since my car is not ready but I did drive a friends and it looked no different from the stock TR and drives a lot smoother.
The clutch is lighter and uses a hydraulic T/O bearing that eliminates the TR slave cyl. The new T/O requires only about a 1/2" press of the pedal to disengage the pedal so you need to put a pedal stop on the floor using a bolt and double nuts to prevent you from pushing it in too far. The five speed it where it's great on the highways. The Toyota transmission is Japanese smooth, has similar gearing in 1-4 but you can get a couple of different model trannies with slightly different ratios.
Not cheap, somewhat less than a rebuilt TR overdrive(around $1200 complete with everything except the tranny), but much less complicated to install and maintain, and retains the original look.
PeterK
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I wrote Herman regarding this conversion and he provided pictures and a pdf file summarizing the kit. His kit appears to be everything you need to mate a toyota (celica, supra, pickup) gearbox to the Triumph motor. It is not cheap, $1,495 for the kit alone, you still need to source a gearbox at additional cost.
Hello Webb,
"6 Speed, if cost efficient, would be even better."
Sorry, I have to disagree, unless you like changing gear for the fun of it. The Triumph has high torque and does not need a multiple gear set up. Personally I prefer the standard Triumph 4 speed and overdrive, which gives relaxed cruising in O\D fourth and a great overtaking range (about 50 to 100 mph) using third and overdrive third (almost instantaneous upshift with your foot hard on the throttle). No five or six speed can match it.
Alec
"6 Speed, if cost efficient, would be even better."
Sorry, I have to disagree, unless you like changing gear for the fun of it. The Triumph has high torque and does not need a multiple gear set up. Personally I prefer the standard Triumph 4 speed and overdrive, which gives relaxed cruising in O\D fourth and a great overtaking range (about 50 to 100 mph) using third and overdrive third (almost instantaneous upshift with your foot hard on the throttle). No five or six speed can match it.
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Herman's kit is pricey but it includes a new hydraulic t/o bearing, pilot bearing, clutch pressure plate and disk, alignment tools , tranny mounts, etc. So if you add up the parts cost, it's a really good deal. The ratios in 1st-4th for the Toyota tranny are nearly identical so the performance is the same torqueyness as the TR and you get the overdrive 5th gear. That's what sold me. nfi PeterK
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I tend to agree PeterK. I have a standard six gearbox and have been purchasing bits and pieces to add an overdrive. Add to this a basic rebuild while everything is off the car and I'll be upwards of $1k-$1.5k. As much as I'd like to stay original the Toyota gearbox is virtually bombproof and add to that a new hydrualic clutch, thus aleviating future clutch fork/bearing woes, and this system seems like a very good alternative.
I am about to also do the HVDA conversion and picked up a Supra box from my local yard for $125.00
The car had done about 100,000 miles and that is nothing for a Toyota.
Here are a couple of useful links regarding the W56 Box
https://www.drivetrain.com/transilltoyota_w56.html
https://www.drivetrain.com/toyota_W_4_5spd.html
The car had done about 100,000 miles and that is nothing for a Toyota.
Here are a couple of useful links regarding the W56 Box
https://www.drivetrain.com/transilltoyota_w56.html
https://www.drivetrain.com/toyota_W_4_5spd.html