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TR2/3/3A Starter Terminal post question, post 60000 TR3A

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On my starter terminal post (which is copper)there was one brass jam nut and a fiber washer. I was missing the second jam nut. I got a jam nut from another source and he sent it to me with the nut a fiber washer and a plain flat washer. Does the assembly need two fiber washers? It did not come off my original terminal post so I have no way of knowing what was on it originally. I would have thought the order of assembly would have been: fiber washer, jam nut. solenoid terminal, lock washer, jam nut.
Any thoughts greatly appreciated!
Thanks, Tinkerman
 
Sorry, I'm a bit confused...are we talking about the starter motor or the solenoid?

John
 
Starter motor. Long nose. I should have said solenoid wire not terminal.

Sorry about the confusion. Thanks for asking the question.

Tinkerman
 
One fiber washer, between the inner nut & the housing. Your order sounds good.
 
Tinkerman said:
Starter motor. Long nose. I should have said solenoid wire not terminal.

Sorry about the confusion. Thanks for asking the question.

Tinkerman
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Didn't post 60,000 cars use the later (short) starter?

T
 
The stud on the starter needs to be insulated from the housing of the starter. There should be a fiber washer on the inside of the housing, where the stud goes through the housing, many times this washer has a shoulder on it that keeps it centered in the hole in the housing. Then there is another fiber washer on the outside of the case, the regular plain washer over that (the regular washer spreads the pressure of the nut out over the fiber one, so you don't crack or tear the fiber)then nut number one holds all those parts tight to the housing of the starter.
I personally then use another brass washer on top of the first nut, then your wire from the solenoid goes next, another brass washer, then either a star washer or a spring lock washer, then the second nut.

care needs to be taken when assembling, that the stud doesn't contact the case. A resistance reading with a VOM from the stud to the case, with the brushes out, should be on the order of several MegOhms.
 
lbcs_r_fun said:
Tinkerman said:
Starter motor. Long nose. I should have said solenoid wire not terminal.

Sorry about the confusion. Thanks for asking the question.

Tinkerman
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Didn't post 60,000 cars use the later (short) starter?
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A common confusion. Dick said long <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">nose</span></span> starter, and the later starter is considerably longer from the mounting surface to the end of the exposed shaft, which I would call the 'nose'. The early starter has a shorter 'nose' but a much longer 'body', making it slightly longer overall.

And the change point was at TS50k, not 60. Gearbox housing and tunnel had to be modified to clear the later starter's nose, flywheel was changed to a bolt-on ring gear, and the gearbox dipstick was deleted.
 
Thanks Randall, your explanation was much better than my "well gosh. that's what everyone calls them" type of answer.

Cheers, Dick
 
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