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spank this-the long rant

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spank ya kid get cought go to jail, yup thats right dem.sally lieber san,fran.calif.wants to pass a law that would get you jail time and or a one thousand dollar fine,for a person being cought striking,administering any type corparal punisment,punching,smacking,hitting of any kind to a child three years of age or younger, i wish her a slew of grandchildren all going throught the terrible 2's simultaineously! look weve all seen it at shopping mall parking lots,in food stores, toy stores,etc the mom or dad that looses it with the kid and does overdo it, i myself have stopped and threatened a citizens arrest on two occasions,and these two kids were older then three, but when a three year old continues to put things into light sockets or just loves to play with matches etc,well its time to explain things in a manner that is instantaneously recognized,(shock and awe) and then get them counselling if needed, spare the rod etc. etc. i have a son hes 24 now, ya as any kid will do hed tested me, but becauese of my own upbringing i promised myself id never hit him and i didnt, he learned to read my eyes at an early age lucky for both of us! but his mom cracked his rump on only a couple of occasions that i witnest and i think he deserved it,at the age of fourteen for sneaking his bike out on his way to school and playing hooky with his two girl cousins i cought them and turn em all in! man ya had to see thier faces when i slowly drove up behind them the three of them shaking and crying,spanking them to me was just double jeopardy, and once for wrestling with a friend in the forbiden entry "white room" the living room my wife did in all white everthing, when i pass this room on my way out of the house i put my right hand on the side of my right eye blinker style so she knows i aint even lookin let alone goin in there! he was about ten years old and knew better but was showing off to his friend so he got it, oh and the big one when he was 16 pre-drivers license, he got hold of a set of keeys and silently rolled moms car down the driveway started it up and drove off i watched the entire event didnt even try to stop em id allready been letting him drive with me and he was very good, i waited till he got home sat down just he and i and explained the only way i would keep mom off him is if he told me why hed done this and promise hed never do it again because if he did mom would be the least of his worrys, that there would be police,fire rescue,ambulances,helicopters and at least one body bag envolved, he knows me and got the message, oh the why? it had something to do with a girl blah,blah,blah,and the story was true,two days later she even apologized to me for fear id tell her parents, anyway about this intended law,i feel the developmental stage of a three year olds brain just isnt able to process adult reasoning especially when the poor kid is tired,hungry,or just plain being 3,and when there are saftey issues a quick sharp crack on the rump can render an instantaneous faverable result, dem. sally lieber feels this law will stop child abuse, bull! that will still go on behind closed doors and an innocent mom or dad will be arrested,booked,and fined for thier disciplinary actions because they did it in puplic, the next law will be five years hard time for yelling at your offspring before there 21 years old. and arnold s. if i find you getting behind this garbage law im going out to calif. and give you a beating!
 
WHEW!!! Anyway to go back & paragraph that diatribe?
 
Geez Ant'ny! I know it's a buncha BS "protect us from ourselves" legislation, but MAN! That was hard to plough thru!

Legislating garbage law is what they DO in Kaliforn-ee. That one is a bit over the top, though. Really stupid.
 
Might want to break that one up into paragraphs. Makes me dizzy to try and read it! A couple capitol letters here and there would help, too! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
The favorite line in our family came from my mother (after arriving home to find that her three precious grandchildren, ages 3 and 4 had just had a fingernail polish fight with 21, count them 21, bottles of red and pink nail poish in her downstairs bedroom) When she saw the mess she said, "We don't do time-out in Mamaw's house" and she promptly smacked all three of their bottoms soundly. (Don't even give me the line about someone should have been watching them, I WAS sort of....just never knew how quickly 3 and 4 year olds can create havoc when they get together)
Basically, sometimes kids need to know that its NOT APPROPRIATE. Too many of my friends are raising children to be their "friends" and they are so afraid to discipline their kids for fear their kids won't "like" them. Our kids have enough friends, what they need are parents and adults who will draw the line and discipline them if they cross it. Whatever it takes to get their attention. They may not "like" me now, but they do respect me.
 
" Our kids have enough friends, what they need are parents and adults who will draw the line and discipline them if they cross it. Whatever it takes to get their attention. They may not "like" me now, but they do respect me. "




Amen to all the above!
 
My Ol' Fella explained to me at about age fourteen: "I could have been your friend or your father. I chose to be your father."

Corporal punishment is NOT a chargeable offense. Rather the ONLY thing egocentric non-rational minds have as a bellweather to BEGIN to understand how to behave and interact with others societally. A first step to civilisation.

As a nation we're doomed as this socialist junk takes over. It DOESN'T "Take a Village"!! It takes RESPONSIBLE parenting. Alas, too lacking in the country we've called "home".

FEAR your children?!? How stupid is THAT?!? Teach them by whatever means necessary that they are NOT the be-all and end-all of the universe. Rather they are a part of a whole, and can achieve and contribute (for their own benefit) to the advancement of humanity. And that they are responsible for their actions. Accountable for their choices.


That's MY rant. A sorry waste of Basil's bandwidth, as it should be "common sense"! Hardly requires legislation. Unless we're rudderless and unable to reason.
 
DrEntropy said:
FEAR your children?!? How stupid is THAT?!? Teach them by whatever means necessary that they are NOT the be-all and end-all of the universe. Rather they are a part of a whole, and can achieve and contribute (for their own benefit) to the advancement of humanity. And that they are responsible for their actions. Accountable for their choices.

Amen and a second to that!
 
Ever notice how those most vocal about telling others how to run their lives also take great umbrage at someone else even making a suggestion on how they run their own? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
I couldn't believe someone would actually propse this
garbage.All it would take is a really smart 4 year old
to tell someone that he was being spanked repeatadly,& then the authorities would move in.
"What're ya in for?"
- "I spanked my kid"

- Doug

I think I'm going back to the '60's!
 
swift6 said:
Ever notice how those most vocal about telling others how to run their lives also take great umbrage at someone else even making a suggestion on how they run their own? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Maybe its the teacher in me. I certainly feel I spend more time with some of these kids than their own parents do. Many of them certainly do not recieve enough praise or discipline. I don't know, maybe 15 years in an inner city 8th grade classroom has made me jaded in my faith in the parenting skills of many of my generation. To be honest the kids are pretty much the same today as they were 15 years ago.....tell them what you expect, set the bar, hold your guns and don't give in. (My first lesson as a teacher was in how to say, "NO") They will almost always rise to your expectations. I have found that being a parent is not much different. I set guidelines & expectations, give lots of praise and discipline when I need to. My oldest graduates in May with a 4.3 GPA and a two page resume of his awards and accomplishments. (Yet I had to come down on him tonight about his attitude..go figure)
BTW---What does he want to be? An automotive engineer. Hmm /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
Or, the time writing such an account might be better spent posting it in a forum that actually pertains to such subjects!

Um, isn't this a "British Car Forum"?

Sorry, but my gosh, why post such stuff here?
 
vagt6 said:
Um, isn't this a "British Car Forum"?

Sorry, but my gosh, why post such stuff here?

I thought we were in the Pub...

SteveL
 
So did I. Though it does have the smell of 'politics'. But not so much as it points up how goofy some politicians can get when they want attention. The bill will likely suffer a quick, ignominious death. Tempest/teapot... aka: "INK!" for inept legislators.

It Certainly rang Ant'ny's bell. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

...and supplied (at least me) a bit of amusement.

CHEERS!
 
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