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So much for the Kodak Moment

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In business, failure to shift to new paradigms is often a company's demise.
 
Not good for an area already in bad shape. Rochester is less than 2 hours from here. Kodak has turned a blind eye to digital photography for too long. I saw this coming 10 years ago.
 
Dang, what am I gonna do for Xray film? The other brands are all imports, terrible. Guess someone will pick up that division.
 
Banjo said:
Not good for an area already in bad shape. Rochester is less than 2 hours from here. Kodak has turned a blind eye to digital photography for too long. I saw this coming 10 years ago.
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They also isolated the film market, which is a small but strong niche market...
 
Basil said:
In business, failure to shift to new paradigms is often a company's demise.
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Was watching a TED video this week and the speaker's comment was "Safe is the new risky."
 
They (the Kodakians) considered it a fad.

Momma took my Kodachrome away more than a year ago.

And if you want to process E-6, ya gotta buy a five gallon quantity.

My Nikons are all now antiques. Same with the Beta tape cameras.

I tell pals I'll get a digital SLR when they come free, in a box of CrackerJack...

But that, too, has disappeared. :frown:

My lifetime of dedication to learning the craft of photography is evidence of very poor judgement!

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I share your sentiments doc... my contax 139 sits it the drawer along side my rollei gathering dust.
Photography, an art that became a science :crazyeyes:
P.S. Ask any kid what an F-stop is or depth of field and they will look at you like you're from Mars (well they may be right
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TR6BILL said:
Dang, what am I gonna do for Xray film? The other brands are all imports, terrible. Guess someone will pick up that division.
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Isn't the technology out there yet to go digital on Xray and eliminate film altogether? Store information on a chip? Look at the space and waste it would save. One of my sisters has been an Xray technician/registered nurse for 30 years and I know she works with computerized Xray equipment all the time, but I have no idea what they do. PJ
 
You mean my Brownie has to be retired??? :cryin:
 
PAUL161 said:
TR6BILL said:
Dang, what am I gonna do for Xray film? The other brands are all imports, terrible. Guess someone will pick up that division.
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Isn't the technology out there yet to go digital on Xray and eliminate film altogether? Store information on a chip? Look at the space and waste it would save. One of my sisters has been an Xray technician/registered nurse for 30 years and I know she works with computerized Xray equipment all the time, but I have no idea what they do. PJ
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No doubt digital dental Xray is the way to go, all the newbies are buying it. Only problem is, most of us old timers will stick with film because of the cost of upgrading. Serious, serious money! All my Xray machines (3) and auto-developer are <span style="font-weight: bold">paid for</span>, prolly more than 50% of dentists still use film and the cost of the total upgrade can easily hit $50K, yes, that would be $50.000.00! After 42 years of plying this trade, I will stick with film.

An aside, film-type dental Xrays, IMHO, are still as good or better than digital, in many instances. The really good digital systems can cost even more.

Film, for me....
 
And while we're at it, why don't they make limousines with stick shift transmissions? :devilgrin:

And where's the place to put the crank start handle on my Miata? :jester:

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<span style="font-size: 8pt"><span style="font-style: italic">But in all honesty, I am sad that Kodak management lost the opportunity to advance their business, causing so many working folks to lose their jobs. Kodak's instant photography effort flopped due to a fight with Polaroid (another company that didn't look ahead). And their disk film, with teeny-tiny negatives was a flop too. They tried, but their efforts simply failed. </span> </span>
 
I gotta side with Bill on this. The expense of "moving into the 21st century" is outrageous. I'd guess the film systems in the office now cost easily as much when THEY were new. Being forced into an outlay of thousands to replace equipment that is perfectly functional (and cost thousands to begin with) is just plain ignorant.

And as he said, film is still as good or better than digital. To acquire the GOOD digital gear would put him out in the street. Nobody could afford to buy the practice.

If we were twenty-five and just starting out it would be a necessity. Not so much at this "age and stage".
 
aeronca65t said:
And while we're at it, why don't they make limousines with stick shift transmissions? :devilgrin:

And where's the place to put the crank start handle on my Miata? :jester:

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When you think about it, if we didn't appreciate things that are old and good and have only stick shifts and sometimes crank handles, the BCF would be a Miata forum. :wink:
 
TR6BILL said:
Dang, what am I gonna do for Xray film? The other brands are all imports, terrible. Guess someone will pick up that division.
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Their specialty film division(s) practically abandoned their customer base - including xray film. They <span style="font-style: italic">intended</span> to push the sales and distribution off on companies that were consumers of the products. Commercial customers were <span style="font-style: italic">supposed</span> to go to those distributors rather than deal with Kodak directly.

In our industry it meant that <span style="font-style: italic">all</span> products that anyone bought had to be ordered through a company that was the <span style="font-style: italic">competition</span>! Our local photo lab had to go to his competition to try and get products. He dropped Kodak completely and went with <span style="font-style: italic">their</span> competition.

Customer service for us was horrible, prices were high, and stock selection and availability cut - so I dropped them too. For awhile. This past summer I decided to try one of Kodak's products again. "Overnight shipping" took about 10 days. Years of bad service hadn't gotten any better and I swore that would be the last time I'd deal with Kodak.
 
DrEntropy said:
They (the Kodakians) considered it a fad.

Momma took my Kodachrome away more than a year ago.

And if you want to process E-6, ya gotta buy a five gallon quantity.

My Nikons are all now antiques. Same with the Beta tape cameras.

I tell pals I'll get a digital SLR when they come free, in a box of CrackerJack...

But that, too, has disappeared. :frown:

My lifetime of dedication to learning the craft of photography is evidence of very poor judgement!

:madder:
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Doc, some of the high-end digital cameras are nothing short of amazing! I rented a Canon 7D to take snaps at the NM Gov's innauguration. Took all the pics in high-def raw images. Afterwards, I was able to process them through a program called Light Room that allowed me to adjust the pictures as if they had been takes at different f-stops, shutter speeds, and even film ISO. Try that with a film camera! I was able to turn some of the pics that were crappy (usually underexposed) and turn them into gems as if I knew what I was doing!
 
You've re-enforced my argument, Basil. Why would it make sense for me to dump tens of thousands into new DSLR bodies, dedicated AF lenses, flash gear, etc. when anyone can go rent a DSLR and with a software package, make images to rival anything I could produce, after a lifetime of learning how NOT to underexpose, blur, poorly compose it?!?

I'd starve, in bankruptcy.

I can be slightly underfed and still make the monthlys now. :jester: :wink:
 
Gliderman8 said:
Photography, an art that became a science :crazyeyes:
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It actually started as more science but quickly straddled both fields and has constantly struggled throughout its history for a solid grounding in both. I could go deep into it thanks to years of photographic study and practice. Not to mention my ongoing MFA Photography studies. However, it might bore some people right off the thread.
 
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