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rust repair advice - rear chassis bit

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the bit that is behind the seats, not sure what it's called /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

1972 midget:

drivers side:
midgetIMG_3878.jpg


passenger side:

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how much of a pain will this be to fix? can I clean out the rust flakes, waxoil the lot and plate over it, or will it require a repair section?

cheers /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
That is the strengthener for the rear of the car. I'd suggest replacing the entire part. Little good can come from patching structural components on a rusty old unibody.
 
If you waxoyl and plate it, the R-word will still be there hiding, that's a candidate for some tactical blasting first, then repair and replace as Trvor suggested.
It will be a pain, but it'll thank you.
 
whats the procedure for removing it? is it spot welded in ?

also, is the part available /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
that's a very common rust area for tubs that have seen heavy weather and age. you will have to remove as much as necessary to hit "good" metal before welding. as you know if you don't get to good metal, the rusting will continue. the patch would probably have to be a seam weld as opposed to a spot. that areas, as trevor stated, is the strengthner and should be repaired properly. you're not alone with that kind of damage.
 
update:

nothing is ever simple /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

this is the inner wheel arch, it's not -too- bad, the round holes are where I was a bit too enthusiastic drilling out the spot welds from the inside:

rear_arch_02.jpg


view through the inside of the support, I'll need to cut a bit more off, but it doesn't look that bad 'higher up'

rear_arch_03.jpg


boot floor is a bit kippered and making the curve with lip will test my never used before panel making skills:

rear_arch_04.jpg


overview. the holes in the arch should be relativly straight forward to patch as long as the metal around them is thick enough that I don't blow more holes in it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

rear_arch_05.jpg
 
And guess you are stuck makeing them up, Moss does not seem to have replacements for that area but they do have all the important bits under it.
 
Have you considered electrolytic rust removal? it is alot easier once you get the part off, and it is cheaper than buying sandblasting equipment.
https://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm
I am doing it to my hood and other parts over the next several weeks until everything is rust free. I'll have to set up a site and do the before and after pictures for you to really get the magic of the chemistry that occurs.
 
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And guess you are stuck makeing them up, Moss does not seem to have replacements for that area but they do have all the important bits under it.

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Jack, VB has all that structure listed.
Jeff
 
Oh, somehow I did not see it. Old eyes.
 
Moss Europe may have it too, but I'm too lazy to check.
 
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And guess you are stuck makeing them up, Moss does not seem to have replacements for that area but they do have all the important bits under it.

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Jack, VB has all that structure listed.
Jeff

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Whats VB ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif moss europe don't seem to list what I need.
 
Victoria British, a USA supplier similar to Moss.
 
bmh-ltd.com shows them, so you should be able to find a distributor.
 
I bought a right hand "dog-leg" reinforcement for one of the Bugeyes a few years ago, (the piece you have cut the section from) and it had the identical tooling marks on it as the original piece. I know some of the stuff is being made from the original tooling.
Jeff
 
That's almost too good to believe!
 
I read someplace that brit parts are made in many cases from the orginal dies.
 
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