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Removing Fulcrum Pins

Thanks for the tips. Yes this something new for me and appreciate any advice
I can get. This will be Saturday AM work for the DS Wishbone. Been taking photos along the way and will add this thread and pics to the Wiki page when done.
 
This post has been a big help to me. I just finished replacing the fulcrum pin bushings in my mkII project and got some good tips out of here. Thanks!
 
Both Wishbones out, they go off for rebuild tomorrow. Finally found 45 minutes for Bugsy . Small victories I am grateful.
 
Great thread, I just pulled the wishbones from my bugeye, both seem a little sloppy but I was wondering if anyone has attempted to use helicoils to repair the threads on the outer fulcrum bushings? The BSF 1/2-16 and 9/16-16 sizes are both available.
 
Matt, there isn't enough meat on those inserts to drill out and tap with a helicoil. In addition, both sides need to be aligned and brazed in place using an old fulcrum pin so both screw faces are correct distance apart. Even a tiny bit of misalignment and they will not screw back together. In my case I determined that my MAPP Gas torch could not get hot enough to undo the brazing that was done on my wishbones when the bushings were previously replaced. At that point as JAck Laird commented, " Sometimes the best tool in your restoration process is your credit card."

I did play with a set of wishbones out of a scrapped '69 and found I could easily unsolder the bushings and remove them. The set I have out of a later model Spridget that I had installed in Bugsy were predrilled for Sway Bar and overall were much heavier construction than earlier wishbones. I know they were rebuilt at least once as there is a rebuild tag on them and one came with a rear grease nipple fitting.

Apple was able to supply bushings for $9 a bushing + shipping. They will R&R both bushings, check wishbones are not bent and straighten if needed, and return with approx. 5 days of shop time price quoted was $95 per side. After fighting this one I made the decision that my Credit Card was the best tool here.

I did discover that both of the wishbones I pulled off of a scrapped 69 were totally unusable as cores. One was totally cracked around the fulcrum pin with < 50% of the metal still remaining on the wishbone and the other side was totally twisted and bent. In both cases it appears that the kingpin siezed and simply tore and cracked the wishbone.

If you decide to order bushings and do this job yourself, order an extra fulcrum pin to use as a sacrificial pin for fitting. Heating the wishbone to reinstall bushings ruins the temper of the fulcrum pin. I did find this piece of advice as well.

Before commencing assembly the bottom trunnion should be bedded into the wishbone bearings; it is a tight fit and is usually impossible to fit if the following procedure is not carried out: Hold the wishbone pan in a bench vice so that the bottom trunnion access hole is uppermost, (vertically so the trunnion can be screwed down into the wishbone). Thoroughly lubricate the trunnion pin with grease and insert it into the hole. The next job is to screw the trunnion into the wishbone using the same action as used when tapping i.e. 1/2 turn forwards then back off by 1/4 turn. DO NOT USE A SCREWDRIVER FOR THIS; the trunnion pin is case hardened and the use of a screwdriver in its slotted end can result in the trunnion shattering, so rendering it useless. Instead of a screwdriver use a piece of mild steel bar which is a good fit in the slotted end of the trunnion. This way you can provide more torque evenly, without the risk of shattering the trunnion, the bar may bend whilst in use and require straightening several times, but this is much better than scrapping the new trunnion. Once the cotter pin slot is visible through the first bush you can use a 1/2" spanner on the flat of the trunnion, which will allow the safe application of even greater torque.

Good luck, Bugsy's wishbones will go out today for rebuild if I can find the right sized box
 
Hi Jim, thanks for clearing that up, I think my credit card is going to get some use as I dont think I'm up for replacing the bushings on my own. Have a Happy Holiday everyone!
 
Wishbones fit into a large Priority Mail Box from the USPS. $15 will get them to Apple Hydraulics by Friday. Bugsy is going to get some new wishbone fulcrum pin bushings and hopefully handle correctly once again. After cutting out the old kingpins I discovered the PS was essentially frozen in place. Very very difficult to rotate the kingpin. Had to use heat to get it to free up and even then as soon as it cooled down things got stiff. Could not even get the last part of the fulcrum pin out of the back side of the wishbone. This one was on it's way to freezing up totally and cracking the wishbone. On the DS things were really loosey goosey and I discovered where my rattle clunk was coming from every time I hit a sewer lid. I am eagerly awaiting the return of my wishbones to see what a difference in hadling this will make. Hoping that my wandering at speed and sensitivity for road grooves is diminished. Will be taking out the 1" lowering kit to get some clearance back under the car. Looks great but every speed bump or curb I need to go slow or scrape the exhaust pipe. Also putting back in Spridget Springs out of a '69 which are almost 1/2" taller than the BE Springs I had in there. Guess I'll need to include an alignment as part of my reassembly process. Now to go out and clean the shop this evening and putthings back in their proper places. Removing kingpins with a side angle grinder really generates a lot of dust and stuff to be tracked in the house and SWMBO has already let me know about the carpet. Come on parts, I really would like to be in as position to take a top down, January thaw drive in Bugsy.
 
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