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TR4/4A Pictures of TR4A Brake M/C being taken apart

tdskip

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In case anyone was curious but had not done it yet. This was another one of those links like rebuilding the carbs that I had a mental block on, but as everyone suggested it is actually pretty simple.

Here is my replacement brake M/C for the TR4A as it came. It had sat for a long time but the seller (nice guy) cleaned it up a little for before sending it along. You'll note that this unit has two exterior rings on it, which indicated that is has a .7 bore where as a single ring indicates a .75 bore. You'll need to confirm which you have before ordering replacement parts.

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You first peal back the rubber boot so you can access the circlip that hold the push rod and inner assembly in place;

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Expect to see some junk here that needs to be cleaned up;

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Once you compress the circlips the push rod will come right out and you'll remove the following;

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This is the piston inside the M/C bore that does the work. This needs to be removed next

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In some cases it will be stuck further in, if you are really lucky and have a healthy M/C to rebuild you <span style="font-style: italic">might</span> be able to just tap it upside down (bore facing down) and have the piston come out. More likely that you'll need to tap it fairly hard on something to shake the piston out. In most cases after tapping the piston will stick out enough that you'll be able to gently grab it with pliers and gently pull it out of the bore.

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Here is the assembly that comes out. We'll be replacing the rubber seals.

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And this is what the bore looks like, more more accurately what you bore might look like but hope that it doesn't. It was hard to get the camera to focus on the inside of the bore but if you look you can see a dark ridge about 1/3 down the bore. That is pitting, nasty pitting actually, and this unit will need to be re-sleeved since honing it won't work.

It is still worth holding on to as a core since it can be resleeved for around $80 where-as a new one is over $160 froms Moss.

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You can get a new Girling master from Pegasus Racing for less then $100. All you'll have to do is swap over the push rod. Three bore sizes available...
 
Great pics and write up Skip, thanks! Question for you is how would you clean up the housing?

Tinkerman
 
tdskip said:
...you'll need to tap it fairly hard on something to shake the piston out. In most cases after tapping the piston will stick out enough that you;ll be able to gently grab it with pliers and gently pull it out of the bore...

I just reach for the air gun at this point -- one quick blast usually has it out (short bit of plastic hose stuck in the outlet, towel over the business end to catch the projectile). Always know where your towel is.
 
Glass bead is what I used on the original cylinders for TS13571L. Came out looking nearly new but probably will need to be resleeved at some point. One of the nice things about DOT 5, I don't care if it weeps a bit, so the sleeves can wait until later.

Might not be an issue for the later TRs, but available replacements are visibly different than the early ones.
 
martx-5 said:
You can get a new Girling master from Pegasus Racing for less then $100. All you'll have to do is swap over the push rod. Three bore sizes available...

Art,

Looks like those are only small reservoir replacements (clutch master versus brake master)?

Scott
 
HerronScott said:
martx-5 said:
You can get a new Girling master from Pegasus Racing for less then $100. All you'll have to do is swap over the push rod. Three bore sizes available...

Art,

Looks like those are only small reservoir replacements (clutch master versus brake master)?

Scott

OOPS...looks like you're right... In that case, the Pegasus unit costs more then Moss. Sorry about that.
 
Thanks TDSkip - I like the pictures and have saved it to my favorites for when I arrive there!
 
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