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Morris

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Does anyone know where I can buy a Payen head gasket for my 1500 without buying the whole upper set. My garage is now full of the millions of extra gaskets that come with that set that I do not need/use. BTW, this will be the FOURTH head gasket I have purchased since aquiring this car. *sigh*
 
Moss for sure, call Tony. # 694-110 15 bucks.
 
I gather the one that Moss sells seperately 694-110 is not a Payen?

Maybe get a copper one then?
 
Not sure at all. Maybe so. If your block and head are straight should be fine. Is my understanding that the Payen is best for poor surfaces because it is thicker softer?
 
I don't think they make a copper for the 1500.

I don't know if the 694-110 is Payen or not.

Maybe Tony will chime in to educate me.
 
Sounds like you need treatment to the mating surfaces. Lapping them with fine valve-grinding past can help.
 
I bought the single gasket from Moss (I have tons of those spare gaskets too). I don't think it's a Payen....it's whatever they handed me.
Works fine for my car (10.25 : 1 compression ratio).
 
What do those gaskets look like? Are they black and metally or blue and plasticky? I like the Payen brand (plasticky) because they don't stick to the surfaces. As I am a frequent head puller, it saves tonnes of time.

Roger: My problem is not blown head gaskets. My problem has more to do with me being impatient and having bad luck with a half-assed machine shop.
 
Morris -

I picked up a payen head gasket set (the complete one) from Moss but ended up only needing the intake gasket & exhaust downpipe gasket.

PM me your address and I'll send the rest your way.

Rob
 
Doh! I just bid on one on eBay!

If that falls through, I may take you up on your super generous offer.

But,if I were you, I would keep that one on the shelf. That is a super handy item to have arround. It could be the difference between a weekend fix and a week of parts waitin' down time.
 
Check "drivewire.com" on the net. They have a lot of stuff, they're really inexpensive and they ship fast.
Bill
 
If that one on eBay falls through let me know. I was thinking of keeping it around, but things tend to get damaged in my shop, and since you need it, figured I might as well offer it up....

As luck will have it, of course I'll blow my head gasket the day after I put it in the mail /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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Sounds like you need treatment to the mating surfaces. Lapping them with fine valve-grinding past can help.

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Actually, a somewhat rougher surface, as long as it is flat, will hold a gasket better. A little "tooth" on the surfaces will help prevent the gasket from moving laterally. More grip.
D
 
Just got off the drivewire web site and found virtually nothing for the MG Midget and what they did have I didnt recognize as even fitting an Mg. Everything I went to concerning 75-79 1500's were not in stock,,
Don
 
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Sounds like you need treatment to the mating surfaces. Lapping them with fine valve-grinding past can help.

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Actually, a somewhat rougher surface, as long as it is flat, will hold a gasket better. A little "tooth" on the surfaces will help prevent the gasket from moving laterally. More grip.
D

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Is this from personal experience or has it been documented? Just curious, since I'd imagine a smoother surface could seal better, especially since the 1500s have the machined lip for the reinforced rings around the combustion chambers on the head gasket. It doesn't seem to likely they'd move around, especially torqued to spec.
 
By somewhat rougher, I think Dave means machined. A machined surface will have a different finish than a polished surface. The gasket does need a surface it can grab onto and "flow" into so to speak. The little "groves" left by the machine tool are great for the gasket. Scratches left by a gasket scraper are not so great. The sealing grooves on the 1500 probably aren't required unless you are running the high compression pistions but I think they were in there to counteract the variances in machining by the factory.
JC
 
I also have bought 4 gaskets in the last 6-10 months. I can verify that Moss does sell a Payen brand headgasket as a single item. I believe it is the aforementioned part number, as I recall the cost at $17 from Moss's website.
 
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