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Walt - could you show a photo of that espresso maker you mention?

I'm a nut on old technology. Here's one I used to have.

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Traded it for a more modern one:

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Now use a "Flair" hand pulled maker.

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When company wants good *strong* coffee, but not espresso, I use a "mokka" type:

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Thanks.
Tom M.
 

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Tom, a moka pot is the one I have, which is why I said it doesn't make a true cup of espresso. I really like the first one you have pictured, was it a stove top version or electric?
 

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Hi Walt - that first photo is a stove top unit. Worked fine until it exploded ... Safety valve got stuck closed. It made coffee similar to the Bialetti type.

Bialetti also makes the "Brikka", which creates a foam similar to espresso crema. Close, but no cigar.

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Actually pretty good, but again, not really espresso.
 

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Tom, the coffee maker has to make what, 9 bars of pressure, to be considered espresso?
 

NutmegCT

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Walt - more than you ever wanted to know about espresso and pressure:

https://compoundcoffee.com/experiments/12_Brew-Pressure-Impact-Sidamo-Guji

The combination of roast, grind size, flow rate, and pressure through the head - and probably a zillion other factors - effect your perfect espresso.

Somehow, I'm a bit reluctant to buy a $5000 espresso maker, but I've run into folks who swear it's worth it. Of course, they tend to have a rather hefty income and/or bank account.

Back to reality. Affordable cafe' au lait and beignets.

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If I lived in New Orleans, I'd weigh 300 pounds.
 
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Hmmm, $5000 k.

$3.50 per latte. = 1,428 lattes.

6 per week (one free in 7) = 238 weeks.

divided by 52 weeks = 4.57 years

not including electricity, coffee or milk.

How old are you Tom? :smile:
 

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Hmmm, $5000 k.

$3.50 per latte. = 1,428 lattes.

6 per week (one free in 7) = 238 weeks.

divided by 52 weeks = 4.57 years

not including electricity, coffee or milk.

How old are you Tom? :smile:
I'm glad we only paid $2,500 for the Missus' machine.
 

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And speaking of "oops" (the thread), this happened a few days ago. Not so "Excellent." Stay with it. One wonders if the ship was going to just sneak away! :wink-new:
 
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That's the kind of thing that can ruin your day.

Indeed. Doubly so when you realize that the heading is Carnival Cruise ship and while it is a cruise ferry, it isn't Carnival, so one gets the crash but another gets the bad reputation.
 

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Everything said about Starbucks is true, however, compared to the slightly brown water we used to get in a little foam cup it's heaven
 

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Did you know that in Italy they have a law that specifies how much pressure the coffee has to be made under for it to be espresso? The small stove top ones don't develop enough pressure to make legally recognized espresso but I do like the one I have, my dad had me pick it up a few years before he died and it does make a good (if not small) cup o' joe.
Slight subject change but related. I saw last week that a Belgian court ruled that Subway bread has too much sugar to be legally called bread.
 

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Slight subject change but related. I saw last week that a Belgian court ruled that Subway bread has too much sugar to be legally called bread.
I believe Subway has run into the same problem in Ireland.
 
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