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OK, I feel stupid

I changed out the starter and am now trying to replace the oil filter. I have a cross reference chart that show the Deutsch D406 as an option. I found one a the local autozone, but with the starter in place, I can't get the replacement in.

What is a good filter for a 1974 with the 1800 cc engine?
 
Try loosening the bolt holding the adaptor to the block and rotating the adaptor toward the fender. Better would be to get a Moss adaptor so you can toss the stock POS.

Mike!
 
I am assuming that you have one of the few 74 B's that have the hanging spin on filter. These were installed in October 1973 to January 1974, before BL went back to the inverted (top loading) set up. I know from experience that it is a pain to get at, but the right filter will work. Make sure that you get the "bottom loading" filter on the 74 MGB list in any parts store. I have used the Fram from AA Autoparts and recently ordered other brand from MOSS that fit just fine. The Bottom Loading filter is a little smaller than the top loading one.

Before I decided to keep this set up, I bought a new filter head mount and 4 filters to convert the car to a top-loading set up. If you want to buy a top loading mount and 4 filters, make me an offer! But, as I said, I have decided to keep the orginal unique set up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif

Bruce /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/driving.gif
 
Bruce:

You hit the nail on the head. This is the hanging filter and I have not found a cross reference that specifies the correct filter for this application.

The previous owner had a FRAM PH2825 and I went back to using that filter. You mentioned that you were using a FRAM filter as well. Which filter are you using? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
 
Ugh, Fram is the worst filter out there. I took quite a bit of convincing myself until I looked at this:

https://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy/

I much prefer NAPA because they nearly always have what I want in stock for a decent price and the filter is superior. No idea of the Worldparts/BeckArnley unit.

Don't put on the inverted (top-loading) unit unless you like to replace bearings on a regular basis. The anti-drainback valves on the filters are just not to be trusted and the extended tube is no better.

Get a Moss conversion plate and be happy... Really, truely happy as you can now put on a MONSTER filter with ease!

Mike!
 
Mike's right, the hanging filter is the better filter because the filter always stays filled with oil. Go to NAPA and ask for a filter for a MGB. They carry two and you want the smaller of the two. It's actually made by WIX which are very good quality filters.
 
The situation with the inverted filter has long been a concern of mine. In addition to the problem with the initial lack of oil pressure, they are a mess to change as the oil will tend to run all over everywhere.

My "B" is a 1977, and Moss indicates that the adapter will not fit these alternator equipped cars. Is this in fact true, or is is possible to tinker a bit to get the hanging filter to work on a 77. If not, is there another source for an adapter that will allow a hanging filter to be installed?
Thanks,
Ray
 
I saw that too and figured that the issue was with the oil cooler pipes.
I have only earlier units (with alternator conversions by yours truely) and there is a lot of room between the end of the alternator and the oil filters on them.
P'haps a quick call to Moss will clear up the issue. If it is, indeed, the pipes then you can have custom ones made up at nearly any industrial hydraulic supply house (BSP is relatively common for some odd reason) or from a racing supply firm like www.pegasusautoracing.com
I would be curious to know the answer to this little conundrum.

Mike!
 
ditto on that, Mike. Have a 69 with the stock upside down filter.
 
Mine's a 73 MGBGT (18V engine) with the hanging filter. I have no issue with the alternator or anything else. The access is easy to put on a new filter and also to take it off.
 
Mark,

You comment that the hanging adapter is the better choice, and I'm fairly certain I understand why: regardless of the anti-drain valve, the filter stays full. I have a 74.5 RB MGB GT with an original inverted filter adapter, but also have a 74 semi-chrome bumper MGB GT with the hanging adapter. Sounds like I need to make a switch.

Any comments? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grouphug.gif


Mike /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/patriot.gif
 
That's right Mike; the filter stays filled with oil.

A friend has a 73 MGBGT that is one month older than my GT and it has the inverted filter, whereas mine has the hanging. Odd.
 
Mark,

My 74.5 has a 10/74 manufacture date - inverted filter.
My 74 (parts car) has a 01/74 (I think) man. date - hanging.

But that doesn't mean that the adapter in the 74 wasn't changed. It was driven a full 14 years longer than the 74.5. 74 was drive by previous owner until '98. 74.5 hasn't seen the road since '84.

Guess I'll add swapping adapters to the list of things to do.


Mike /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/patriot.gif
 
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