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If someone gave me a mac I'd sell it and build a real computer, but that's just me :wink:

The real reason (I think) Vista isn't a big deal is because there's nothing earth shatteringly new about it, and for most people there's absolutely no reason to ditch XP.
 
New Windows Os's always have growing pains from the vast amount of peripherals out there. Since Apple has a relativaly closed system, it's easier to write drivers. Now that Vista has a service pack out, I think a lot of the issues have been resolved. Written on a home built XP machine. :laugh:
 
Business IT pros are staying away in droves. MS is working on their NEXT OS now, Vista will be stillborn.

BLECH!

Written on a homebuilt Intel machine runnin' <span style="font-weight: bold">LINUX!!</span> :smirk:
 
and despite gazillions of hardware and software "improvements", we're all still using a keyboard developed in the 19th century.

:jester:

Written on a 1983 Tandy Model 100 laptop, uploaded to an iBook, transferred to a PC, reamed through dozens of routers, and magically appearing on a screen near you.

T.
 
<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Since December of last year, we've deployed Vista Business out to about 170 users or so. The main issues that we've run into have been printer drivers, believe it or not. I think one of the main reasons that people don't like it is that they buy machines that meet the minimum requirements but really cannot support the OS. Vista is a resource hog, but if you have a machine that can comfortably support it, it's really not that bad. Just like Mac's, you're paying for the cool interface.</span>
 
Shane - I've only seen Vista on the MS site, never in person (edit: other than displays at CompUSA, etc.). You're the first person I "know" who's done the migration for so many workstations.

You mention deploying Vista Business to around 170 users; I assume that means on the computers that had XP on them.

What do you gain from Vista over XP?

Thanks.
Tom
 
Shane said:
I think one of the main reasons that people don't like it is that they buy machines that meet the minimum requirements but really cannot support the OS. Vista is a resource hog, but if you have a machine that can comfortably support it, it's really not that bad.
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"Security Wizard" aside, the hardware replacement necessary to bring a company up to the capacity to simply RUN the bloatware is daunting. It's a ponzi scheme wherein Redmond drives hardware sales... and not a good one, as I see it. YES, I have clients who have it. YES, it runs fine on NEW machines with pre-installs.

The pre-release given to the various supposed "Partner" peripheral hardware manufacturers was BOGUS. Drivers written to work with that don't work with the "final release". The Service Pack "fixes" a lot of those issues but there was much gnashing of teeth over the initial release, too much bad karma. They can KEEP it. I hope Bill opens his closet every morning to dress and is inundated with unsold BOXES of the thing.

IMO *small* businesses should NOT be burdened with driving the nation's economy by subsidising computer software and hardware manufacturers. A "closed circle" economy.

BAH!!! Adopt a PENGUIN!! :smirk:
 
Doc - have you done migrations from xp to vista? If the hardware remains the same, is there any gain at all?

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T.
 
uhhh... sure. In "slowness". RAM needs to be AT LEAST 2G for it to work right, there's enough time consumed hunting down drivers to send "billable time" into insulting amounts if you're sane.

"Let it be". As in sleeping dogs. If you're a gamer and have an x64 processor and the rest it's fine. For mere mortals trying to run businesses it's poison. Some lawyers' offices may be diff'rent but the ones I have as clients don't deserve the punishment.


Wanna know how I REALLY feel? :devilgrin:
 
As a retired IT Manager who once had 700 desktops and some mini computers, I dreaded new MS products. Never installed until I had to, and never until the second service pack.

Oh, and I got real tired of the expert end users telling me "It's no big deal to install, I have it at home".

I am glad to be out of the business.
 
Ray, that is the whole enchilada in a nutshell. :thumbsup:
 
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