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Bruce_B

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While wiring up my '59 BE (And having way to much trouble with it) I decided just to zap the starter to turn the engine a little bit and spread the lube in the pistons.

So it's a high-torque starter internal-solenoid, rebuilt engine, Positive Ground. The NEG cable goes to the start/switch solenoid, the other part of the solenoid gets connected to the starter. I then put 12v NEG to the space on the starter and WHIRRR. I can hear the starter spin. The starter spins even when I'm not pulling on the STARTER Switch.

Though I needed NEG to both terminals on the starter to get it to activate. And even if it doesn't shouldn't the engine move . Seems that the flywheel is not being engaged.

Any ideas?
 
Sounds like you hooked the negative wire up to the wrong solenoid terminal. Hook it up to the other big terminal and TOUCH the main cable to the battery for a second. If nothing happens when you do this THEN hook it perminantly and hit the starter switch.
Bill
 
Sounds like it's spinning the wrong way!! Watch that +/-!!!
 
Bruce,
On your starter, are the teeth beveled so they can engage the flywheel?
I bought an Isuzu starter (trooper) and it fits and all..but the starter teeth are cut straight, no bevel to allow them to engage..like the flywheel should have the bevel. Which it does, but on the wrong side (back)!
Has anyone else run into this with a HT starter? I guess I can either try to find an alternate gear for the starter, or (ugh) flip the ring gear over so the bevels are facing the front.
Thanks,

Devin
 
Spridget starter is the same as a 64 Duster at your favorate place for about 40 bucks.
 
I've been using the hi torque gear reduction starters on the race and street cars for well over decade, never had a drive gear problem.
 
The large neg(or pos) cable from the starter should be hooked directly to the battery or the the same post of the Spridget 'solenoid' as the big cable from the battery. Negative power to the SMALL wire that goes to the real solenoid on the side of the gear reduction starter should go the the switched side of the spridget solenoid. The small switched wire brings current to close the big contacts and engage the gear. The closing of the big contacts in the starter's solenoid is what starts the motor spinning. In othe words, the high current switching a starter needs is moved from the spridget solenoid to the starter's solenoid, and the original Spridget solenoid becomes a low current trigger switch

Glen Byrns
 
That's what I am running.
 
OK, Jack ... I'm no MOPAR man, and I know that chrysler imported some cars and rebadged them. However, I do not think the '64 duster was one of them. In fact I think there was only a valiant in '64.

So... I think there is quite likely a plymouth/chrysler import that used a lucas starter... but I do not know which one.
 
OK, after a web search, I think that a '72 Plymouth Cricket may use a lucas starter like the spridgets.
 
Hmmm, been awile. I can say it is a Lucas starter and came from an Midget 1962 orginaly. Life time warenty.
 
Trevor Jessie said:
OK, Jack ... I'm no MOPAR man, and I know that chrysler imported some cars and rebadged them. However, I do not think the '64 duster was one of them. In fact I think there was only a valiant in '64.

So... I think there is quite likely a plymouth/chrysler import that used a lucas starter... but I do not know which one.
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I have done the MOPAR thing (63 and 68 Darts), and I think your 72 Cricket guess is right. Odd that a 74 colt is a different starter.

Brian
 
If he is using the org BE pull start you need to install a jumper from the switched side of the cable on the starter to the sol. if you dont it simpley spins and no ingagment to the flywheel.Thats the way it works on mine however I see mention of a switch sol?
 
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