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Hey all,
Instead of digging up an old thread on my enjoyment of the hendling of my 'B, I thought I'd start a new one specifically concerning after market suspension parts.
As I've said before in previous posts, I'd like to lower my car before changing anything else on the suspension. However, a couple of people have noted that RB cars may end up with positive camber when lowered. This sounds kind of odd to me considering the upper and lower wishbones are unequal in length. The upper bones are shorter than the lower. Assuming at stock height that they are both parallel to the ground, this would mean that any change in suspension geometry would result in slight negative camber, because the shorter wishbones would have to travel a greater distance in it's arc of movement to cover the same vertical travel of the longer wishbone. The exception to this is if the wishbones are not parallel to each other and the ground at stock height.
Anyways, the benefits of having negative camber are quoted as having "improved turn-in response". The negative camber lower wishbones offered by Moss, BitVik, etc. are somewhat appealing. However, one thing bothers me about them. That is the fact that they are fixed. I'm sure they improve turn-in response greatly, but at what cost for normal tire wear?
From reading the website British Automotive's aticle ( https://www.mgbmga.com/tech/mgb14a.htm ) on lowering the front suspension of an MGB, they make a lot of suggestions to enhancing suspension and ways for correcting undesireable side effects of modifying the suspension. One of their suggestions is to use "lowered stub-axle assemblies" in order to maintain correct suspension travel. However, I've never seen one of these items for sale.
I have, however, found a place that sells lowered lower wishbones with adjustable camber ( https://www.classicconversionseng.com/a-arms.htm ). This particular product seems even more interesting to me than the standard issue negative camber lower wishbone. It would potentially allow me to kill two birds with one stone. My only worry regarding these particular wishbones is with durability. They don't seem to have very much information on these wishbones other than what they're supposed to do. So, I'd like to ask if anyone here has these on their car and how often do they drive the car with them?
Finally, British Automotive show's a diagram of the Ron Hopkinson's front telescopic shock setup. This seems to be the best shock only conversion setup that I've seen so far. It places the shock between the wishbones and not off to one side. This seems like an interesting modification, but I've never heard from anyone that utilized it. Certianly in my reading of this board, more than enough people have voice their opinions on the stock shock setup and how versitile it is. Does anyone here run a coil over kit? or use a Ron Hopkinson front shock conversion kit? I'm curious to how it compares to a car with good stock shocks or stock shocks with "heavy duty" valving.
Thanks for any opinions and added insight into this topic.
Instead of digging up an old thread on my enjoyment of the hendling of my 'B, I thought I'd start a new one specifically concerning after market suspension parts.
As I've said before in previous posts, I'd like to lower my car before changing anything else on the suspension. However, a couple of people have noted that RB cars may end up with positive camber when lowered. This sounds kind of odd to me considering the upper and lower wishbones are unequal in length. The upper bones are shorter than the lower. Assuming at stock height that they are both parallel to the ground, this would mean that any change in suspension geometry would result in slight negative camber, because the shorter wishbones would have to travel a greater distance in it's arc of movement to cover the same vertical travel of the longer wishbone. The exception to this is if the wishbones are not parallel to each other and the ground at stock height.
Anyways, the benefits of having negative camber are quoted as having "improved turn-in response". The negative camber lower wishbones offered by Moss, BitVik, etc. are somewhat appealing. However, one thing bothers me about them. That is the fact that they are fixed. I'm sure they improve turn-in response greatly, but at what cost for normal tire wear?
From reading the website British Automotive's aticle ( https://www.mgbmga.com/tech/mgb14a.htm ) on lowering the front suspension of an MGB, they make a lot of suggestions to enhancing suspension and ways for correcting undesireable side effects of modifying the suspension. One of their suggestions is to use "lowered stub-axle assemblies" in order to maintain correct suspension travel. However, I've never seen one of these items for sale.
I have, however, found a place that sells lowered lower wishbones with adjustable camber ( https://www.classicconversionseng.com/a-arms.htm ). This particular product seems even more interesting to me than the standard issue negative camber lower wishbone. It would potentially allow me to kill two birds with one stone. My only worry regarding these particular wishbones is with durability. They don't seem to have very much information on these wishbones other than what they're supposed to do. So, I'd like to ask if anyone here has these on their car and how often do they drive the car with them?
Finally, British Automotive show's a diagram of the Ron Hopkinson's front telescopic shock setup. This seems to be the best shock only conversion setup that I've seen so far. It places the shock between the wishbones and not off to one side. This seems like an interesting modification, but I've never heard from anyone that utilized it. Certianly in my reading of this board, more than enough people have voice their opinions on the stock shock setup and how versitile it is. Does anyone here run a coil over kit? or use a Ron Hopkinson front shock conversion kit? I'm curious to how it compares to a car with good stock shocks or stock shocks with "heavy duty" valving.
Thanks for any opinions and added insight into this topic.
