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I'm still cleaqning up a few PDO Pedro-ized items.

The horn did not work and Pedro said a horn fuse
needed to be replaced. OOPPSS!!

The horn button was held on with chewing gum and the hub
inside was empty. No wires, not nothing. Black pit.
1969 steering wheel and 1969 steering column.

I ordered all the parts that seem to be needed to assemble
the hurn button and hub connections. But now I have no clue
how these parts go together. The large circular parts will
not fit inside the hub and it looks like a contact circle
of some sort.

any help appreciated. Bentley is worthless for this one.

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I'm going from memory here but I believe it goes as follows,Centre steering wheel with front wheels straight,mark steering wheel hub to shaft so as to get it back in same location.Remove centre nut to end of shaft,place knees behind wheel and push .If it's to tight for that use a brass drift and hammer on the shaft keeping force from behind.(beware of smiting forehead on the pullback)Leave nut at end of shaft to keep shaft from mushing out.Remove steering wheel.install bushing on shaft into column,install slip ring,with wire attached,(feed wire thru hole in column to make connection later).Install three prong clip with cutout in line with hole in hub ,install the nut and tighten(torque to 30lbs)Install brush (long spring loaded piece with brass ends)I don't remember but there may be a wire on the back of the button??? Somebody know ??
The horn circut is alway's hot and the button makes a ground to complete the circut
Make sure ground wire is in place at the rubber coupling and from steering rack to frame.
 
Opa said:
Make sure ground wire is in place at the rubber coupling and from steering rack to frame.
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You can say that again. I had one that seemed to be there and intact but it was open. In fact the horn would work only at some positions of the steering wheel. So I suggest that those wires be checked very carefully.
 
Dale
The big ring goes under the steering wheel, you have to take the wheel off to put the ring in.

take a look at this page, it has an exploded view of the other stuff.
https://www.canleyclassics.com/catalogue.asp?id=vitesse1600_horns&scale=large

The rubber bit you have there is a bushing for the steering column. Unless the steering column (lots of play between the steel shaft the wheel is attached to and the outer housing) is really loose in forget about it.

One other thing in addition to the Bentley, a copy of the spare parts book would be helpful since it has exploded views of just about everything. It was originally intended for the dealers. I have one for the herald and it was worth the cost of shipping it overseas. I am sure that a similar book exists for the TR6. I got mine on fleabay
 
Please end this thread here-
it is going nowhere.

thanks Dale
 
Thanks DNK-

I have the green book, blue book, Bentley and the
workshop CD as well.

My steering column does not appear in any of these tomes.
Ergo- I killed this thread.
 
Tinster said:
Thanks DNK-
My steering column does not appear in any of these tomes.
Ergo- I killed this thread.
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Why, Is yours curved. The same column is probably in all the 6's If yours doesn't look like ours Pedro must of pulled it out of a Cuban 56 Chevy.
 
Tinster said:
I ordered all the parts that seem to be needed to assemble the hurn button and hub connections.
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What exactly did you order ?
I'm with DNK, I think that big thing with the Lucar terminals is for some other car. It looks familiar, might be for some other Triumph, but not an early TR6.

Perhaps your vendor made a mistake ... it does happen sometimes, even with the best of them.
 
Dale: From what I see, you have very good advice from our friends. In addition, I recommend that you invest in a horn relay. Any auto parts store can provide these. If you can wait, I'll bring one with me next month. The problem is in opening and closing the horn circuit with the horn push alone, you eventually get pitted contacts and if memory serves, and considering the stop and go traffic in PR, the horn-push contacts won'tlast long. So you connect the horn relay coil in place of the horns, and then use the relay contacts to do the work of opening and closing the horn circuit. I have an Enrico Nardi wheel on the 250. Got it as a Christmas gift from my wife about 25 years ago. When you order these wheels , they are sold without the hub. So you order a hub to match your car. This beautiful hand crafted wheel came with an OK hub that had a very cheesy looking, cheap, piece of crap horn push. On the horn push was the TR "open book" logo in red. (really bad)The horn-push contacts lasted about 10 minutes in Philly traffic. So, I ordered a replacement horn push but wired it to a horn relay. This has lasted ever since.
 
I know I have one of those thingys with the lucar connectors, but I can't remember if it's installed on the car or somewhere in with spare parts inherited from the PO. Hmmm....I'll have to check when I get home. Maybe it's on my Vanagon???
 
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