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PAUL161

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I carry this list in each of my vehicles. To each his own. End of message!

<span style="font-weight: bold">Good Gas buy</span>
Sunoco
Conoco
Sinclair
BP/Phillips
Hess
Arco
Pilot
Flying J
Loves
RaceTrac
Valero

<span style="font-weight: bold">Middle East Gas don't buy</span>
Shell
Chevron/Texaco
Exxon/Mobil
Marathon/Speedway
Amoco
Citgo-Chavez owned!
 
hmmm - why do I feel a very political non-political topic has begun ...

T.
 
Nothing political about it. It's just my list of the type of gas I buy. Sorta like buying Fords or Chevy's. What ever your preference is. I don't buy Ethanol tainted gas either, if I can avoid it.
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I purchased a '67 GT recentley that had a similar list with Station names in it. The book was the original one the first owner had with the car.

Let's see "filled tank with 12.6 gallons for $8.76"!!!!!!
 
I may well be mistaken, however, I believe that gas stations get their gas from the closest refinery, so the Shell and Sunoco across the street may well be getting their gas from the same exact source. The only difference is the tiny little additive package.
 
12.6 g for $8.76 !

Yikes - that was expensive gas!

My first fill, in my 1965 Opel was $3.29: 11 g at 29.9¢ per gallon.

Them wuz the days ... and we didn't care where it came from!

Interesting sidelight: many analysts say that oil would be around $80/barrel instead of over $100, if there was no price speculation. Kinda sounds like house values before the bubble burst, eh?

Tom
 
PAUL161 said:
Nothing political about it. It's just my list of the type of gas I buy. Sorta like buying Fords or Chevy's. What ever your preference is. I don't buy Ethanol tainted gas either, if I can avoid it.
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:nonod: Nope - not at all like buying Fords or Chevies. Neither one of those is made in the Middle East.

Let's keep with the tone of the forum, please.

Mickey
 
PAUL161 said:
Nothing political about it. It's just my list of the type of gas I buy. Sorta like buying Fords or Chevy's. What ever your preference is. I don't buy Ethanol tainted gas either, if I can avoid it.
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<span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 12pt">Uh huh. I'm sure your list is just based on how the names of each company sounds as it rolls off the tongue and nothing whatsoever to do with geopolitics. I'm not knocking your list, but there is sometimes a fine line on some topics which could turn political very quickly, especially when you start talking about ethanol (I have very strong opinions about that topic as well, but I'm not about to discuss them here because my opinions are extremely political). This thread if fine <span style="text-decoration: underline">so far</span>, but in determining whether something is political, ask yourself what your motivation is for whatever opinion you are posting. For example, if your list exists because of your geopolitical views, then there is a fair chance the topic is political topic.

For example, I could make a list of Hollywood actors that I will NOT watch and say it isn't political, just a list of actors I don't like. But the truth is, my list of Hollywood actors I refuse to watch is definitely based on my political (and moral) beliefs - so I don't post it. Just food for thought.</span></span>
 
Thanks Mickey [edit: and Basil!]. Here's a followup to the "where does the gas really come from" idea. Source is USA Dept of Energy:

<span style="font-style: italic">"Can I tell which country or State the gasoline at my local station comes from?

The name on the service station sign does not tell the whole story. The fact that you purchase gasoline from a given company does not necessarily mean that the gasoline was actually produced by that particular company's refineries. While gasoline is sold at about 169,000 retail outlets across the nation:

1. about one-third of these stations are “unbranded” dealers that may sell gasoline of any brand

2. The remainder of the outlets are “branded” stations, but may not necessarily be selling gasoline produced at that company's refineries. This is because gasoline from different refineries is often combined for shipment by pipeline, and companies owning service stations in the same area may be purchasing gasoline at the same bulk terminal. In that case, the only difference between the gasoline at station X versus the gasoline at station Y may be the small amount of additives that those companies add to the gasoline before it gets to the pump.

Even if we knew at which company's refinery the gasoline was produced, the source of the crude oil used at that refinery may vary on a day-to-day basis. Most refiners use a mix of crude oils from various domestic and foreign sources. The mix of crude oils can change based on the relative cost and availability of crude oil from different sources."</span>

https://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/experts/contactexperts.htm
 
A friend of mine has a similar list taped to the console of his car. I understand the philosophical underpinnings of such a list and agree with its basic premise. However, from a purely practical standpoint, such a list of "good/bad" gasoline companies is meaningless due to the complexities of the world crude oil marketplace.

The major oil companies purchase crude oil from the universe of world-wide suppliers all over the globe. After crude oil is purchased, it refined, usually by a major oil company's refinery, then AGAIN sold in spot markets to a wide range of retail and wholesale buyers. Your local gasoline retailers purchase refined gasoline on regional "spot" markets all over the U.S. There are literally hundreds of wholesalers all over the country. This is where your car's gas comes from, it's an unfathomable maze.

As such, the refined gasoline at your local pump hose could be from anywhere: <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">no</span></span> retail gasoline supplier could know where the crude oil from which your gasoline is made came from.

Unless such a list of "good/bad" gasoline is entirely symbolic, it is meaningless. But as a symbolic gesture, it has an impact, I think! :yesnod:
 
One wonders if such lists are based on certain emails that float around the net - emails with erroneous information:

Bad Gas Stations Urban Legend

The list in this Snopes article look somewhat similar to the list of "bad" stations above.
 
My favorite gas? Nothing political about it! The one that puts the most gas in my tank for the money!!! Brand loyalty here is foolhardy, since as was stated above somewhere, one really doesn't know where a particular station got their gas from in most cases!!
 
I stopped caring about brands when the guys that use to wash your windows, check your oil and tire pressure, and actually pump your gas were put out of work to save me money so I could pump my own. I am a price shopper.
 
Yes Jeff

And that includes up here, where we export it to you and then import it back.
Hey what are good neighbors for anyway.

Dave
 
The problem is that the "good gas" list is full of stations that sell low quality gasoline. Stations like Vallero don't even offer the same brand of fuel from one station to the next. They are independent stations which only lease the name Vallero to sell more gas. There is no way to know what you're putting in your car from one fill-up to the next.

I notice a big difference in how my cars perform from one brand of fuel to the next, which is why I only use high-quality fuel regardless of where it comes from. Yes, I GREATLY prefer to use US products, but I don't know of a way to tell where the fuel is coming from since it varies even between stations of the same brand.

My cars only drink Chevron and Unocal unless it's an emergency. The older cars hate Shell and most bargain brands like Arco, etc.
 
my cars get the brand that comes from the small refinery 1 county over. I like to support the local economy, southern Indiana and southern Illinois oilmen, and my cars run good on it. It's also competitively priced.
 
Just filled both tanks on my Jaguar XJ6 with Amoco 93-octane...its the 2nd tank since I did a major overhaul & brought it out of mothballs (1st tank had Lucas for Gas additive) & car is smoothing out, running better & has more power the more miles I put on it...
 
Basil said:
PAUL161 said:
Nothing political about it. It's just my list of the type of gas I buy. Sorta like buying Fords or Chevy's. What ever your preference is. I don't buy Ethanol tainted gas either, if I can avoid it.
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<span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 12pt">Uh huh. I'm sure your list is just based on how the names of each company sounds as it rolls off the tongue and nothing whatsoever to do with geopolitics. I'm not knocking your list, but there is sometimes a fine line on some topics which could turn political very quickly, especially when you start talking about ethanol (I have very strong opinions about that topic as well, but I'm not about to discuss them here because my opinions are extremely political). This thread if fine <span style="text-decoration: underline">so far</span>, but in determining whether something is political, ask yourself what your motivation is for whatever opinion you are posting. For example, if your list exists because of your geopolitical views, then there is a fair chance the topic is political topic.

For example, I could make a list of Hollywood actors that I will NOT watch and say it isn't political, just a list of actors I don't like. But the truth is, my list of Hollywood actors I refuse to watch is definitely based on my political (and moral) beliefs - so I don't post it. Just food for thought.</span></span>
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Sorry Basil, didn't mean to start a debate. You could scrub the whole thing if you'd like before it gets out of hand. We can talk about nicer things.
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