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Well, kinda, sorta...for my wife, plus a bunch of other stuff.
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As usual, they put the darn ring gear backwards, with the bevel in. Ted Schumacher swears it will work fine. I guess so, my stock ring gear worked for 33 years that way. Supposedly the factory put most of them on backwards. Go figure.
 
Geez Bill, No offense but I THINK your wife should shave.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
 
You are indeed a far, far braver man
than I, Bill.

That easily would have cost me a week
trip to Rio as pay back. LOL

Ya sure ya don't want to donate that fine piece
to the Crypt Car?? I'll send ya Crypty's old
one in return!!

dale filled with envy in 82* today Bayamon, PR

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Geez Bill, No offense but I THINK your wife should shave.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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Plus she needs to do something about that gut!
 
And my high-torque Japanese starter thrusts from the front, back.
 
Nice of her to share it with ya.

I guess if the Bendix is well enuff chamfered, the gear bevel wouldn't play that big a role. Couldn't get away with that on a BMC or Ford rig tho.

...nice shirt, BTW.
 
Your a hellava guy Bill. Your wife must be mighty happy with her new gifts. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
Do the swap for the old one, clean *it* up, place on kitchen worksurface and "Bob's yer Uncle!"

Well done! Should I now mention the: "Certificate of Gullibility"? Can we have the correct spelling of her name? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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Supposedly the factory put most of them on backwards.

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You mean to tell me that I shouldn't blame the DPO for the buggered ring gear I just replaced?
 
I certainly hope that you got her a Magic Clutch Kit to go with it!!!
 
I knew you wouldn't let her down. I'll bet it was just like the Belden Jewelers TV commercial. When she opened her eyes and saw the box with the Sachs pressure plate and the Koyo bearing wrapped in oiled paper, she probably started to cry. And the new alignment tool must have made her feel like a little girl again.

I'm getting all teary eyed myself, just thinking about it.
 
Actually, Bill, the ring gear is on correctly for a stock, "pull-in" starter. I've been running the gear reduction starters on a couple of vehicles with that same configuration for 5 or 6 years, and all seems to be working so far. There is a pretty good bevel on their starter pinions, so it may be a "non issue."
Jeff
 
I think the bevels should be a non-issue. As stated above, alot of guys that had the pull-in from the rear type starter drive have gone to the gear reduction push-in from the front type and experienced no problems.

The other alternative is to sit in front of the TV with a small file and bevel all the teeth on the other side of the ring gear. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thirsty.gif
 
I'm sure that Bill's wife will be happy to clean up all of those little filings from her living room rug. It might be a good idea to move that project to the shop, unless of course, you bought her a new file set for Christmas.
 
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I think the bevels should be a non-issue. As stated above, alot of guys that had the pull-in from the rear type starter drive have gone to the gear reduction push-in from the front type and experienced no problems.


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The gear reduction type of starter works slightly differently than the inertial type. On the inertial type, the starter starts spinning, which pulls the bendix into the ring gear. If there isn't a decent bevel the bendix gear and the ring gear are not going to mesh, and the system will lock it self up. What is supposed to happen is that the inertia keeps the bendix from spinning until it slides into the ring gear, and the the inerta that the starter motor has developed since it is going quickly, and the armature is fairly heavy will turn over the engine. Of course, if the bendix is greased or oild be a DPO, or bad mechanic, the the bendix will become very sticky, and start to spin before it contacts the ring gear. Sir Lucas knew this so he added the flats on the end of the starter to release the starter when this happens. So nice of him!
The Gear reduction uses a big soleniod to pull in the bendix, which is NOT attached to a spinning motor, so the bevel mating is not quite as critical. In any case, even if the bendix didn't match up, the starter motor would only start when it the soleniod (and gear)is all the way in.
Yisrael
 
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