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MGB Lightweight MGB Cross Member

Steve_S

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I know a few of you have lightened your MGB front cross member. Just out of curiosity, how much weight did you save?
 
Stock beam=28lbs:
beam01.JPG


Lightened beam, lower spring perches & A-arms =23 lbs:
beam02.JPG


Total weight loss = 5 pounds.
 
Wait, that math doesn't add up. If everything in the second photo weighs 23 pounds then you saved a heck of a lot more than 5 pounds total!
 
Hang on - lemme go back to my notes....

Stock beam = 28lbs
Lightened beam = 26lbs
2lbs difference
A-arms & spring perches lightened, brake dust covers removed & drilled/slotted rotors installed = 3lbs lighter
hubs turned down 5/8" to lighten = 1/2lb
Total = 5-1/2lbs lighter
 
Ok, the 2 lbs is what I was looking for. I had to move a bare cross member around tonight so I weighed it just for fun, then wondered how much weight would be lost by drilling it out. Like I said though, just curiosity. I got 28 pounds on a bathroom scale by weighing myself with and without it.

"hubs turned down 5/8""

You mean the outer diameter? I haven't heard of anyone doing that one before!
 
It would be unwise to do the same thing to a street car. That's for Tony's "racecar on a budget" project.
 
Tony, one more question...

Do all those holes make it whistle a lot??? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif
 
You ain't seen th' video, Bruce?!?!

...at about 70 MPH you can hear "God Save the Queen" comin' outta it. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]"hubs turned down 5/8""

You mean the outer diameter?[/QUOTE]
Yep...see the photos below...the one on the left is stock, the one on the right is modified

hub01.JPG


hub02.JPG


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]Would this effect the strength very much?[/QUOTE]
Don't see how it could....there's a Canadian national champuion MGB that's been running with its lightened beam since the '60's & he never had a problem with it under any conditions.

Think about it - what good does the part between the frame rails do anyway other than holding the 2 ends together? The beam is only needed outboard of where its attached to the car.
 
I wasn't worried over the structural integrity, rather the opportunities for RUST 'n rot, junk to collect inside it. A race car is a different animal than driving on the streets. We INSPECT race cars. We tend to take the street versions for granted.
 
How does it alter the handling with a lighter front end?
 
Gets it closer to 50/50 with every ounce of "added lightness" up there, Vince. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
& that's one the things I was shooting for, Doc - 50/50 with me in the car!! Plus I want it down around roadster weight when finished!
 
Five pounds of sprung weight will not make a noticeable difference in a street car. That's like buying a 6-pack of soda to bring home. Will it make a difference on a race car? Well... arguably it could. But you'd have to be really pushing the envelope to actually see it. Twenty pounds would be far more noticeable.

As for strength, the center section seem to be mostly for keeping the two halves from flexing away from each other. Yes, removing material will weaken this link but more than likely it's stronger than needed for normal use. An engineer could certainly study the beam and advise on where to take out metal to make the least difference. Is the weight savings worth the reduced rigidity? Who knows!
 
I agree for a street car...however, 6-ounces here & 6-ounces there pretty soon add up to 30 or 50 or more pounds of weight loss overall....that's how you've gotta think when lightening a racecar - from my unexperienced position....heck, I weighed all the undercoating we took off my car...it alone equaled almost 50 pounds!

& any unsprung weight that can be reduced is all totaqlly free!
 
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