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twigworker
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Two types and two generations were used in Bs.
The D-Type were used in earlier cars, identified most easily by their external solenoid, then the LH type that came along later. The LH is divided into two subtypes, the Black label and the Blue Label. The blue label as installed is most easily identified by the fact that they were activated only in top gear instead of third and top gear as was the black label. Of course the most positive identification can be made by looking at the color of the name plate, as in the black one on yours. There is supposed to be a weakness inherent in the blue label units specific to a thrust washer failure, but IMHO for normal everyday use any design weakness is overshadowed by how the transmission is treated and maintained. Jack
The D-Type were used in earlier cars, identified most easily by their external solenoid, then the LH type that came along later. The LH is divided into two subtypes, the Black label and the Blue Label. The blue label as installed is most easily identified by the fact that they were activated only in top gear instead of third and top gear as was the black label. Of course the most positive identification can be made by looking at the color of the name plate, as in the black one on yours. There is supposed to be a weakness inherent in the blue label units specific to a thrust washer failure, but IMHO for normal everyday use any design weakness is overshadowed by how the transmission is treated and maintained. Jack
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Yes, you can install a late transmission in an early car. It's done now and then. In fact, my '67 GT has a '72 LH OD transmission. It retains the bent shift lever from the early non-OD unit which it came with.
The lever position is a couple inches off so you have to lengthen the opening in the tunnel. You may also have to slightly widen the tunnel in a couple places with a large mallet.
The lever position is a couple inches off so you have to lengthen the opening in the tunnel. You may also have to slightly widen the tunnel in a couple places with a large mallet.
Vince,
That '67 parts car I have had a late-model o/drive installed at one time. I can send you a picture of the cutting that was done to make it fit. Not exactly a professional job, if you want my opinion. Without a console, don't know how one would cover up the new hole.
That '67 parts car I have had a late-model o/drive installed at one time. I can send you a picture of the cutting that was done to make it fit. Not exactly a professional job, if you want my opinion. Without a console, don't know how one would cover up the new hole.
Steve_S
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The console on my '67 is a period 60's Amco accessory. They are still out there if you look hard enough. I saw a NOS one on eBay a few months back.
The accessory gauges are mounted to a panel which is covering the old speaker hole. I don't like the looks of it and plan to return to the stock octagon speaker assembly, and then mount the gauges in a period Smith's triple gauge mount either under the dash or in an enclosure on top of the center console. Unfortunately the PO cut up the speaker console pretty bad when he rigged up the gauges. Back then the speaker console wasn't hard to come by like it is now.
The elongated hole in the transmission tunnel will be covered with carpet anyway, so you don't have to worry about it. If you're crafty you could weld in a patch panel to reduce the hole to its proper size.
The accessory gauges are mounted to a panel which is covering the old speaker hole. I don't like the looks of it and plan to return to the stock octagon speaker assembly, and then mount the gauges in a period Smith's triple gauge mount either under the dash or in an enclosure on top of the center console. Unfortunately the PO cut up the speaker console pretty bad when he rigged up the gauges. Back then the speaker console wasn't hard to come by like it is now.
The elongated hole in the transmission tunnel will be covered with carpet anyway, so you don't have to worry about it. If you're crafty you could weld in a patch panel to reduce the hole to its proper size.