Help with Interior Color on my TR-2

[Mark_Gibson]

I just received the stone leather and vinyl samples from TRF and my heritage certificate says that is what the car came with new. The intersting thing is that the interior I took out of the car looks to be the original one, but it is much lighter, more like an off white. The carpet sample matches, so i know its a stone wool carpet. Any ideas what color this might be? Wondering if someone changed it out. If they did, it certainly looks like a factory interior job. The seat covers are the same, this off white. I've attached a pic of the door panel, not sure if you can see from that what I mean.

Thanks,

 

[Mickey Richaud]

Mark -

Stone is what the '57 I had came with - more of a beige or cream color. Yours could have been redone, but the difference could be due to sun and age discoloration. Original color scheme of mine was beige with stone - pretty bland. But the stone interior can look really nice with other colors.

Mickey

 

[Geo Hahn]

It is not unknown that dealers would swap car interiors.

It is also not unknown that Heritage Certs can be incorrect (not to fault BMIHT, they are working with the records that survived).

 

[Andrew Mace]

Pure speculation, but I wonder if your car somehow gained an original interior in beige out of a later TR3? Beige as an interior color seems to have replaced Stone around TS22014, according to the Spare Parts Catalogue. How do the seats compare in upholstery pattern to those of a TR2 v. a TR3?

 

[Mark_Gibson]

The seats are a TR-2 pattern. I just spoke with Dave from TRF and he said the same thing; it may have been a one off or a special order after it left the factory. I'm going to put it back to the stone they have available I guess. I think it will look OK with the red exterior.

Thanks,

 

[Alan_Myers]

Hi Mark,

There was also probably a lot of variation in materials and colors occuring when Triumph sourced from various vendors themselves and, those vendors in turn sourced raw materials from different suppliers. It's not all that unlike the situation today, I'm sure!

Case in point, my TR4 didn't have the "fuzzies" or "draught excluders" that supposedly all were fitted with. It's got hard plastic trim instead. I suspect this was done because of the fairly unusual Midnight Blue interior that was original to the car (quite a bit darker than the more common Shadow Blue) and perhaps "fuzzies" were only available in the lighter shade (which looks weird combined with the darker vinyl & leather, IMHO).

Another example is TR4 carpeting... I've seen at least a half dozen clearly quite different, but all supposedly "correct" medium grey shades. Worse, none of them are anywhere close to matching the small samples of original carpet I eventually found in the car (which might have discolored, too, so is pretty useless as a guide).

And, the hard top I just got has its original headliner. The material is a perfect match, texture-wise, for the sun visors that came with the car originally. Unfortunately, the visors were dyed black (this was often done by the dealer, originally visors were white) and the headliner has turned cream colored and brittle with age. So, I've ordered a new headliner and will be trying to match it with visors.

A more modern example, the interior of my '97 Land Rover, which I would expect to match, has definitely faded to different shades over the years. Some harder, plasticky materials like the gearbox cover and the center console faded a lot faster and have ended up a noticibly lighter/different shade than the leather seats, center console lid, door panels and dash/air bag cover.

So long as the kit you got all matches each other and is reasonably close, I think anyone would have a hard time arguing about its "correctness".

Again, just my opinion, but I think Stone will look absolutely superb in a your red car! Keep us posted!

 

[Mickey Richaud]

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So long as the kit you got all matches each other and is reasonably close, I think anyone would have a hard time arguing about its "correctness".

Again, just my opinion, but I think Stone will look absolutely superb in a your red car! Keep us posted!

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/iagree.gif Yep - And regardless of what your car has now, according to the build record, it came with stone, so if that's important to you...

Mickey

 

[Mark_Gibson]

I have read that some of the stone interiors were more of a lighter cream color as well. This is what mine probablly is. I'll be putting it back to the stone that TRF has, and it will match the build record. I figure 2K for the interior, so looks like I'll be saving some pennies for awhile! I'll just add it to the list....Thanks,

 

[Andrew Mace]

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I have read that some of the stone interiors were more of a lighter cream color as well....

[/ QUOTE ]I think this must have been true of some other interior colors as well. For example, one of my TR3As has, under (believe it or not) layers of tan, blue and black paint or dye, what's left of the original "Silverstone Grey" interior. That color was confirmed by the build record I got many, many years ago. Like you, I got a color sample from TRF and was surprised to find that the sample was, in fact, quite grey. Surprised because what I'd uncovered in my car could easily have passed for a dirty white or light greyish cream, including those bits tucked underneath other bits and therefore never exposed to sunfading (or the dyes and paints).

 

[trfourtune]

hi,i assume you looked at your existing material where the sun does not shine, literally, like under the seats under the material folds to get the unfaded, unweathered colour.
the outside, exposed does not show the true colour.
rob