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Nylo

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I need to re-flare the end (towards the slave) of my clutch hard line. The problem is the proper flaring tool is no longer made. Anyone have any ideas on what I can do? Is there a different type of flare tool that would work?

Thanks,
Nylo

1964 Mk1-1/2 Midget
1275: 12CD-DA-H-11092. 68-69. motor
 
What car and year? You might find one if you visit a really old independent mechanic or garage. I'm in Auburn, WA if that is near you. Could lend you mine. It is twenty years old but still might not be the right flare. Give us a location and someone close by will probably try to help.

Guinn
 
If you are running the standard 3/16" clutch line, with the ISO, or "bubble" flare, those tools <u>are</u> still being made. MiniMania was still selling them the last I knew.
You can also use a regular double flare tool, and only do the first step of the flare.
Jeff
 
I have a double flare tool and a "bubble" flare tool, both from Snap-on. They are both currently available.(I bought the bubble flare tool last year) I don't know of any other type flare used in auomotive hydraulics.
Bugeye58 is right, you can cheat a bubble flare with the double flare tool.
 
if you cannot find the tool, new hard lines can be sourced from VB, Moss ect... with the correct fittings on both ends. You have to bend-shape them but it can easily be done by hand.
 
My Midget's clutch slave to the master it hard lined end-to-end. What I want to do is put a clutch hose at the slave, mount it, and then attach the hard line to it. I haven’t removed it as of yet so I don’t know if it’s a double or a bubble.... I don’t even know what either look like even when I do un-attach it. So as you can see I’m in a bit of learning possess.

When I go to get a flaring tool what should I ask for? Is 3/16" the size of the fitting? I like the idea of cheating with a double flare.

Nylo

1964 Mk1-1/2 Midget
1275: 12CD-DA-H-11092. 68-69. motor
 
You can get an adapter from NAPA to change the flair. This will allow you to use the standard double flair. I am building my car ground up including aftermarket brake master and wilwood rear disk brake conversion. I swapped out the 3 way and 4 way brake junctions. I am using two 3-ways as the Master is dual line. The front brakes are the only original MG component and I'll use adapters there. The rest will be standard fittings and flairs sold in every auto part store across the nation.

Gary
 
Nylo, I'm unclear as to why you want to install a hose from the hard line to the slave cylinder. Could you elucidate a bit?
I'm looking at a tool sale flyer from my local NAPA store, and they have an OTC flaring tool listed to do the bubble flares, (OTC-4504) for 24 bucks.
Gary, if you are going to run the Wilwood rear discs, may I suggest that you install a manual proportioning valve in the system. Without it, those rears will lock up on you, and, instant spin.
Totally disregard the "intended for off road use only" stickers. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Even running the Wilwood dual master cylinder setup, with the cable adjustable bias pivot, there isn't enough adjustment on the bias to prevent the rears from locking without the manual hydraulic valve. Not something you need to discover unexpectedly! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
Jeff
 
The master is bias to start but I also have an inline adjustment. As far a stickers I am a poor reader. I am not sure why they are concidered only for off road use. Every car in the world people spend time upgrading (with drum rears) convert the rears to disk. MG's are the only one's I have ever seen were people say "for off road use only" (performance cars, Camero's, Chevells, etc not Jeeps, and 4-wheelers). It is to protect the manufacturer which is fine but that is the tip of the iceburg with aftermarket parts on cars.
 
Gary, it's a liability issue with the manufacturers regarding the "for off road use only" stickers. If they specify that their product is not to be used on the highway, they don't have to jump through all the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard hoops. For instance, 5 point racing harnesses are not DOT approved, even though they are a quantum leap ahead of the pitiful restraint systems used in production vehicles.
But, that sword cuts both ways, as if you were involved in an accident running non approved parts on your vehicle, you could conceivably be found liable.
Lawyers, don't you just love 'em!?
As to the brake bias issue, I was just trying to give you a "heads up" on something I wasn't sure you were aware of.
Jeff
 
I want to use a clutch hose because I think that the vibration and motor torque had something to do with the leak.
 
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