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John Loftus
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The gas tank should be black but I'm not sure about the straps (mine have black paint on them but the P.O. liked to paint things black). Just another related question to tack on to the thread ... the material under the strap ends appears to be a molded paperboard (cardboard) material and need to replace one .. any suggestions on what to use?
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John
Cheers,
John
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The gas tank should be black but I'm not sure about the straps (mine have black paint on them but the P.O. liked to paint things black). Just another related question to tack on to the thread ... the material under the strap ends appears to be a molded paperboard (cardboard) material and need to replace one .. any suggestions on what to use?
Cheers,
John
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Heavy red gasket paper.---Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
The gas tank should be black but I'm not sure about the straps (mine have black paint on them but the P.O. liked to paint things black). Just another related question to tack on to the thread ... the material under the strap ends appears to be a molded paperboard (cardboard) material and need to replace one .. any suggestions on what to use?
Cheers,
John
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Heavy red gasket paper.---Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
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Heavy red gasket paper.
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Good idea! I have a roll of some heavy gasket paper that should work well. Besides, it all gets painted black, right /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Cheers,
John
Heavy red gasket paper.
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Good idea! I have a roll of some heavy gasket paper that should work well. Besides, it all gets painted black, right /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Cheers,
John
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Also good to find out about the gasket paper. Mine did not have any. Cheers.
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Roger,
I took a few pictures to show where the thick gasket paper should go. I think it was originally 1/8" thick ... mine has compressed down to about .100"
Note at the end with the clevis pins that the paper extends beyond the sheet metal about 1/2 to 3/4". This is to provide some insulation between the tank and the clevis pin mounting bracket bolt.
Cheers,
John
Also good to find out about the gasket paper. Mine did not have any. Cheers.
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Roger,
I took a few pictures to show where the thick gasket paper should go. I think it was originally 1/8" thick ... mine has compressed down to about .100"
Note at the end with the clevis pins that the paper extends beyond the sheet metal about 1/2 to 3/4". This is to provide some insulation between the tank and the clevis pin mounting bracket bolt.
Cheers,
John
Keoke
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HI AUSMHLY, it might be a bit more costly but you could use a leather strap or make some from old belts, I hate to mention it but them "DOG Collars" may be the most economical way to go. Thick gasket paper is hard to find at the usual auto parts stores,but you might search on line.---Keoke
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Roger,
I've done some research on the material .. The original stuff appears to be Flexoid Oil Resistant Jointing. If you look closely at the printing on the strap you can see the "Fle" of Flexoid (and another piece reads "oid"). It's a Glue/Glycerine impregnated material, cellulose based. Excellent oil and fuel resistance. Very economical. Service temperatures up to 250°F. Apparently it was made in England but it may have originated in the States. (see the following link if so interested and note they still manufacture Flexoid. https://www.thomasregister.com/olc/68105410/about.htm
There is also a company in India making a substitute called Sankoflex. (see attached)
Anyway, if I find a suitable 1/8" replacement I'll let you know.
Cheers,
John
I've done some research on the material .. The original stuff appears to be Flexoid Oil Resistant Jointing. If you look closely at the printing on the strap you can see the "Fle" of Flexoid (and another piece reads "oid"). It's a Glue/Glycerine impregnated material, cellulose based. Excellent oil and fuel resistance. Very economical. Service temperatures up to 250°F. Apparently it was made in England but it may have originated in the States. (see the following link if so interested and note they still manufacture Flexoid. https://www.thomasregister.com/olc/68105410/about.htm
There is also a company in India making a substitute called Sankoflex. (see attached)
Anyway, if I find a suitable 1/8" replacement I'll let you know.
Cheers,
John
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Please bring me up to speed. Why is a gasket needed under the metal straps? What is it's purpose? I don't see it listed in the Moss catalog.
I'm willing to give and take a bit, being it will be hidden under the trunk armacord. So the leather strap you mention Keoke sounds the simplest to find and install. I would guess the leather should be thin, so as not to see the elevation it will make under the two metal straps. Looking forward to the reply.
I'm willing to give and take a bit, being it will be hidden under the trunk armacord. So the leather strap you mention Keoke sounds the simplest to find and install. I would guess the leather should be thin, so as not to see the elevation it will make under the two metal straps. Looking forward to the reply.
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Please bring me up to speed. Why is a gasket needed under the metal straps? What is it's purpose? I don't see it listed in the Moss catalog.
I'm willing to give and take a bit, being it will be hidden under the trunk armacord. So the leather strap you mention Keoke sounds the simplest to find and install. I would guess the leather should be thin, so as not to see the elevation it will make under the two metal straps. Looking forward to the reply.
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Moss doesn't list it separately, only as part of the strap.
The tank is rather loosely held in it's place by the straps. It can move around a bit during violent bumps or vibration. The padding cushions the strap (prevents metal to metal contact) so that it doesn't wear the tank or cause squeeks. There is also padding between the bottom of the tank & the floor. Both to seal the floor opening & give a bit of metal to metal separation. A full tank, maybe 70 pounds, is a lot of weight to have bouncing around in the back.
Not a great design but we are pretty much stuck with it.
D
Please bring me up to speed. Why is a gasket needed under the metal straps? What is it's purpose? I don't see it listed in the Moss catalog.
I'm willing to give and take a bit, being it will be hidden under the trunk armacord. So the leather strap you mention Keoke sounds the simplest to find and install. I would guess the leather should be thin, so as not to see the elevation it will make under the two metal straps. Looking forward to the reply.
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Moss doesn't list it separately, only as part of the strap.
The tank is rather loosely held in it's place by the straps. It can move around a bit during violent bumps or vibration. The padding cushions the strap (prevents metal to metal contact) so that it doesn't wear the tank or cause squeeks. There is also padding between the bottom of the tank & the floor. Both to seal the floor opening & give a bit of metal to metal separation. A full tank, maybe 70 pounds, is a lot of weight to have bouncing around in the back.
Not a great design but we are pretty much stuck with it.
D
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Please bring me up to speed. Why is a gasket needed under the metal straps? What is it's purpose? I don't see it listed in the Moss catalog.
I'm willing to give and take a bit, being it will be hidden under the trunk armacord. So the leather strap you mention Keoke sounds the simplest to find and install. I would guess the leather should be thin, so as not to see the elevation it will make under the two metal straps. Looking forward to the reply.
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No you do not want it too thin. I think the original material was just shy of 1/8" thick.The elevation and there is one under the metal straps, but is of little concern and as you mentioned no one knows its there but you. Dave, covered the whys and wherefors--Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
John, I will look into that material thanks for the tip.
Please bring me up to speed. Why is a gasket needed under the metal straps? What is it's purpose? I don't see it listed in the Moss catalog.
I'm willing to give and take a bit, being it will be hidden under the trunk armacord. So the leather strap you mention Keoke sounds the simplest to find and install. I would guess the leather should be thin, so as not to see the elevation it will make under the two metal straps. Looking forward to the reply.
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No you do not want it too thin. I think the original material was just shy of 1/8" thick.The elevation and there is one under the metal straps, but is of little concern and as you mentioned no one knows its there but you. Dave, covered the whys and wherefors--Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
John, I will look into that material thanks for the tip.
I used the leather stolen from one of my wifes belt. I used contact cement to hold it in place and then the rivets. mine was already black but leather is easily dyed. I liked the idea of leather beacuse it is soft yet strong.
Excuse the dust in the photo. I drove the car this weekend. It was the first time this car had seen the road in 20+ years. what a great exprience to know I brought it back to life.
Kevin R
running and driving 1959 BN7
Excuse the dust in the photo. I drove the car this weekend. It was the first time this car had seen the road in 20+ years. what a great exprience to know I brought it back to life.
Kevin R
running and driving 1959 BN7
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WOT! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif You mean you wear the paints in the family but the missus got the belts??. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I think that should work out just fine. Glad to hear that your car is running again.---Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif