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Baz

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Looked in the usual sources, can't find an answer....

How much does a 1275 (head, block, pan, trans) weigh?

I know it's not something that someone puts on a scale or anything, but is getting this motor out going to require a lift, or two strong humans and a 2x4.
What's the best way, in a tight confines of a garage?
Where to strop, what kind of tackle etc...
 
250 pounds for the engine and about another 50 pounds for the trans. use a standard engine hoist. you need a pretty steep angle to get both out together and watch out not to bang the radiator box. remove the engine using the valve cover bolts for attachment. just take your time and you will be fine.
 
Baz,

I dont know the weight exactly but I'll tell you that I used a hoist for removing my engine and wouldn't have it any other way.

Me and my FIL moved an extra 1275 engine alone from my car trailer to a resting place in my shop a few weeks ago using the 2x4 method and it was no fun at all! And we arent little guys.

When lifting most people use the valve cover studs but I use the rear exhaust bolt and front/pass water pump stud. I attatch to these using steel brackets that I can then run a nut over for extra security. The bracket on the front stud is an "L" bracket as the stud is vertical.

I know there are many ways to do this but this is the way that I fealt the safest.

HTH
 
If you strip the engine down to just crank, pistons, cam and timeing chain and split it at the transmission. Two strong young folks can remove it with a 2x4 and some rope.

However, an engine hoist is really the way to go if you care at all about damage.
 
i agree with ben on where to attach the hoist. i have used the manifold studs as well and actually felt more confortable than using the valve cover studs.
 
you need a lift....a 2x4 must be a bad myth...
i used a 2x6 with a fat boy on one end and
barely got it out....not safe, not recommended!
..........z
 
Thanks all, just going through a list in me head about what's needed etc.
I'll call around and rent one, a lift.
Lifting 136 kg with a 2x4, as Zimmy put, 'not safe, not recommended!'....
 
2X4 trick is not a mith, Daughter and I use to do that trick on base in the car port. We had no funds for a hoist rental nor time to mess with it, needed the car for work the next day.
 
I have lifted my BE out with a 2x4, but because of the height of the front shroud on Midget, I would recommend a hoist as well. The rental fee is under $50.

Patrick
 
My Dad and I always did it with a "come-along" usually just hooked over the 2X4's in the garage. I later doubled up the 2X4 that I used to lift from. I think getting the engine tilted to miss the heater box and clear the radiator shroud is the trickiest bit. Not too hard with two people but pretty tricky by yourself.
 
I've been using a $20 come-along (cable-ratchet thing) for years. It's hooked to a chain around my 2X8 rafters (which I doubled at that point).
I just raise the motor and trans up and roll the car away from under it. Sometimes I just do the engine (easier with the 1500). I do this at least twice a year.
I'm fairly strong and I can *just* lift a stipped block with nothing in it.....and then I need a bottle of Advil!
 
My back still twinges from time to time from lifting and putting a 948 block in the back of the pickup. Will never ever do that again.
 
We used a come-along method, with an empty swing-set...Although, really, it was a cable lift with handle, and two come alongs to be really picky about the angle. One come along was about 3 in thick, to take the main weight, the second a thin one usually used to tie down loads, which we used to specify angle. :: shrugs ::
 
My setup is about like Nial's: Double 2x8's (bolted and bonded together) strung across the garage ceiling, a REAL chain wrapped twice around, and a chain 2.5 ton come-along. Inch engine/gearbox up while squirting the car from under it. Been using that method at home for decades. Engine cranes are for shops, no room here to stow one when not in use: 99.999% of its life.
 
Funny you should mention that Doc.
I was in a garage of a friend of a friend and saw that he had a collapsible engine hoist that he had made a removeable rack for the top. This rack held all sorts of things from jack stands to 30 pound sledge hammers. He said it takes him about 20 minutes to remove all the stuff when he needs the hoist, but like you said... he uses maybe once/twice a year.
 
I used an Oberg tilt lift engine sling, and an electric hoist from Harbor Freight

I am able to take the engine in and out by myself no problem.

HTH
 
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