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Another Ebay gem. Here is your chance to own one of the rarest TR3Bs ever built. Actually... one that was never built. I can't stand these people. They are more than just dishonest,they make it very very hard to explain the truth to people who want to know the REAL history of TRs
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jsneddon
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Yes, it's related to the very rare Triumph GT5+, only a few of which still exist.
Sheesh, and some folks will believe it!
Sheesh, and some folks will believe it!
jsneddon
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Well... I took a look at it. It looks pretty much like the pictures --- very rough. Guy says he wants $4000 for it and he's still sticking to the TR3-B story but I didn't push him on it. But his ebay auction says TS75826L which is NOT a TR3B commission number. According to what I know a TR3B starts with TCF or TSF.
He has a store-front full of British cars with a Ferrari and a VW Bug thrown in for good measure. Wants $3500 for a MGB with overdrive that doesn't look too bad all things considered. He says it is an '80 but it must have recieved a chrome bumper conversion. Also has a complete but scruffy TR6, an early Spitfire, a MGA, a couple of Jenson Healy-types, a few AH 3000's, a XK120, and even a DeLorean. A few have original-ish paint but most look like they've been given a quick paint-job to pretty them up.
Interesting business.
He has a store-front full of British cars with a Ferrari and a VW Bug thrown in for good measure. Wants $3500 for a MGB with overdrive that doesn't look too bad all things considered. He says it is an '80 but it must have recieved a chrome bumper conversion. Also has a complete but scruffy TR6, an early Spitfire, a MGA, a couple of Jenson Healy-types, a few AH 3000's, a XK120, and even a DeLorean. A few have original-ish paint but most look like they've been given a quick paint-job to pretty them up.
Interesting business.
Geo Hahn
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Though not a 3B (it's a 3A built in 1960) and probably not originally white and perhaps not originally a Calif car... $4,000 is not an unrealistic asking price. A lot depends on the things that can't be seen in photos. Odd that the commission plate is not in place.
Surprised he didn't tout the 'Offenhauser' valve cover, but perhaps he didn't recognize the name.
Surprised he didn't tout the 'Offenhauser' valve cover, but perhaps he didn't recognize the name.
jsneddon
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After meeting the guy I was trying to be as diplomatic as possible in my last post but...
Goober is one way to put it.
But the word "shyster" is really screaming in my head.
From the looks of things he's giving Earl Sheib a good deal of business with all the "I'll paint any car any color for $199.95" paint jobs he's buying.
If any of you have a momentary lapse of reason and bid on anything from him in the future I'd be more than happy to take a trip over there on my lunch and check it out for you.
Goober is one way to put it.
But the word "shyster" is really screaming in my head.
From the looks of things he's giving Earl Sheib a good deal of business with all the "I'll paint any car any color for $199.95" paint jobs he's buying.
If any of you have a momentary lapse of reason and bid on anything from him in the future I'd be more than happy to take a trip over there on my lunch and check it out for you.
Alan_Myers
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Hi all,
Yeah, it's scary how much "misinformation" gets onto that auction site sometimes.
Did you know if you use the eBay system to send a question to the seller, asking for clarification, that it will show up on the listing and anyone viewing the auction in the future will see both your question and the seller's answer?
Speaking of rare TR3s, is anyone familiar with the TR3A Beta? I've read a little about them and apparently it's possible to buy some body parts to build a replica. I've thought it might be fun to put one together sometime, perhaps because I've already got the spare frame and many suspension parts!
What little I know is that two Betas were built in 1960 as a possible replacement for the the 3A. This was before the decision was made to build the TR4. The Beta uses a frame quite similar to the TR4's, but with taller side rails, one inch shorter outriggers. This gives it a wider track, which meant that both front and rear fenders needed to be widened about 2" and can accomodate wider tires quite easily. Pictures I've seen could pass for a normal TR3A, until you sit the two cars next to each other and then the widened body becomes obvious. I think the Betas had rack & pinion steering. I know one is known to have survived and has been restored in England. Would love to hear any additonal details anyone might have.
Back to the auction, what is everyone's fascination with California cars? I've been reading a recently published British book about TRs, and all they talk about are getting an "ex-California" car to avoid rust problems.
Yeah, I'm in Calif. and so is my car. But I'm so thankful it spent most of it's life in Colorado and isn't as rusty as some of the Calif. cars I've seen! After all, most of the population of Calif. lives and drive their cars pretty close to the ocean, with it's salt air and all. Other Calif. cars live in the mountains, with snow and salty roads in the Winter. Plus a lot of Calif. cars spend inordinate amounts of time sitting in traffic jams!
Me, I'd look for an Arizona or New Mexico car! Or, maybe I should just keep quiet and double the asking price on my "California" car! (As if I'll ever sell it! ;-)
Cheers!
Alan
Yeah, it's scary how much "misinformation" gets onto that auction site sometimes.
Did you know if you use the eBay system to send a question to the seller, asking for clarification, that it will show up on the listing and anyone viewing the auction in the future will see both your question and the seller's answer?
Speaking of rare TR3s, is anyone familiar with the TR3A Beta? I've read a little about them and apparently it's possible to buy some body parts to build a replica. I've thought it might be fun to put one together sometime, perhaps because I've already got the spare frame and many suspension parts!
What little I know is that two Betas were built in 1960 as a possible replacement for the the 3A. This was before the decision was made to build the TR4. The Beta uses a frame quite similar to the TR4's, but with taller side rails, one inch shorter outriggers. This gives it a wider track, which meant that both front and rear fenders needed to be widened about 2" and can accomodate wider tires quite easily. Pictures I've seen could pass for a normal TR3A, until you sit the two cars next to each other and then the widened body becomes obvious. I think the Betas had rack & pinion steering. I know one is known to have survived and has been restored in England. Would love to hear any additonal details anyone might have.
Back to the auction, what is everyone's fascination with California cars? I've been reading a recently published British book about TRs, and all they talk about are getting an "ex-California" car to avoid rust problems.
Yeah, I'm in Calif. and so is my car. But I'm so thankful it spent most of it's life in Colorado and isn't as rusty as some of the Calif. cars I've seen! After all, most of the population of Calif. lives and drive their cars pretty close to the ocean, with it's salt air and all. Other Calif. cars live in the mountains, with snow and salty roads in the Winter. Plus a lot of Calif. cars spend inordinate amounts of time sitting in traffic jams!
Me, I'd look for an Arizona or New Mexico car! Or, maybe I should just keep quiet and double the asking price on my "California" car! (As if I'll ever sell it! ;-)
Cheers!
Alan
Alan: The advantage to a "California" car is painfully obvious when you start looking at cars in Pennsylvania (where I'm from) or any other place that salts its roads in the winter. Salt gets into the wheel wells, floor pans, etc. and rusts out horribly. But you're right, Arizona and New Mexico are popular places as well. A lot more of these collectible cars ended up in California than AZ or NM though.
edit: Also, the responses to questions only show up if the seller chooses to have them show up when he responds to you.
edit: Also, the responses to questions only show up if the seller chooses to have them show up when he responds to you.
35thbdaytr6
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The eBay system gives the seller a choice to display the question. As a professional technician, I have to say it's buyer beware on any car from any source. If you are not 100% sure what you are buying, aand if you have a backup plan if it goes wrong, walk. I charge $200 for a comprehensive buyers inspection, funny thing is, 10% of the cars I look at, I tell the seller I can't take their money, take the car back to the seller and find another. Of those, 75% pay me to inspect it anyway, then most of those people buy the after I advise them to find another. I've written repair estimates that total a car, then the buyer talks the seller down $500 and thinks they got a deal. When they bring the car back for repairs after the fact, they are mad at the car for falling apart!