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This thread by ObiRichKanobi inspired me to start one for photos of old British cars and airplanes. Here are two I have taken in the past year.

My TC and Y-Type with a Supermarine Spitfire at Planes of Fame Museum in Chino, CA.

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My TC and a DC-3 at Evergreen Aviation Museum in McMinnville, Oregon.

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Cool Pics. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/iagree.gif I've always liked the "Spitfire with Spitfire" combination myself.
 
Not British but, My old Stearman, forgot who's Model A Ford. Not a very good photo, dirty camera lens.

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That would be cool in black adn white with some film grain thrown in. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
All great pictures, and yeah, it's hard to top Spitfires with Spitfires.
Those black and white have a nice "period effect".

Paul-That's a nice old Stearman. A ~Friend of Mine~ owns one that he does tail wheel training in one, but it's too rich for my blood.

Here's my Aeronca with my Spridget back when it was a street car:

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And here's my Miata with a friend's L4 that I have flown many times. My Aeronca and his other plane (Husky) are in the background (taken at 12N).

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Nice photos.
....Any photo with a Spitfire in it is fantastic, especially a sqared wingtip, those are rare.
 
aeronca65t said:
All great pictures, and yeah, it's hard to top Spitfires with Spitfires.
Those black and white have a nice "period effect".

Paul-That's a nice old Stearman. A ~Friend of Mine~ owns one that he does tail wheel training in one, but it's too rich for my blood.

Here's my Aeronca with my Spridget back when it was a street car:

nial_aeronca_mg.jpg


And here's my Miata with a friend's L4 that I have flown many times. My Aeronca and his other plane (Husky) are in the background (taken at 12N).

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I love those old air planes! My first ride was in an old Luscombe out of a dirt strip in Kansas back in the 50s, with pot holes all over the place. It proved just how strong the gear was on it. One of my favorite aircraft is the old Piper J-3 with a 65 hp in it. It's the only aircraft I could do a "Falling Leaf" in with out messing it up. A falling leaf, to those who don't know what it is, is when you make the aircraft stop all forward motion in the air and let it fall from side to side without loosing control. You have to constantly out think what the plane will do next. Just like a falling leaf. You need a light aircraft with fairly large wings. It looks so cool from the ground. I'll bet you could do one in your Aeronca. Oh, the Stearman of your friends. Wow, another Navy guy! Cool!
 
I didn't notice that at first.....these were modified aircraft, as opposed to being built that way. Usually older, they were intended to be able to counter the ME109 at lower altitudues. The pilots termed them "Clipped, Cropped and Clapped" (clapped as in Clapped out /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif )
 
Here's your black and white photo. Me and the old bird before it was redone. Other than the little cub, I flew those old clunkers in the background also. Two D-18s, one converted and a B-25 hearing destroyer!

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PAUL161 said:
Here's your black and white photo. Me and the old bird before it was redone. Other than the little cub, I flew those old clunkers in the background also. Two D-18s, one converted and a B-25 hearing destroyer!

I love that photo!

Do you mean one of the D-18s was converted? If so, converted from what to what? I can't tell by looking at the photo. Or are you referring to the PA-22? Was it converted from a PA-20?

Great photo!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]...A falling leaf, to those who don't know what it is, is when you make the aircraft stop all forward motion in the air and let it fall from side to side without loosing control.... [/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, I've done a Falling Leaf (or "Sustained Stalls") in these planes.
When I fly a Cub, I almost always fly with the door "open" (they are hinged down). So when you do a Falling Leaf in a Cub, the door closes on it's own from the plane dropping!
Cub doors are great "Zero Airspeed Indicators".

In a Falling Leaf, the Aeronca tends to drop one wing all of a sudden (but's it's easy to recover).
 
PAUL161 said:
I flew those old clunkers in the background also. Two D-18s, one converted and a B-25 hearing destroyer!

Wasn't it a Beach 18 that was flown through the billboard in "Mad Mad World?"

Basil
 
Basil said:
Wasn't it a Beach 18 that was flown through the billboard in "Mad Mad World?"

Basil

Yes, I think it was Paul Mantz that flew a Beech 18 through the billboard. A really nice one, too.

Great scene with the drunk Jim Bacchus passed out in the cabin and Buddy Hackett and Mickey Rooney at the yokes!
 
BizJetGuy said:
"Just hit the button marked 'BOOZE'"

A guy I used to work with told me this story. He was delivering an executive-interior Beech 18 to the customer. He was solo. He put the ship on autopilot and went into the cabin to make a drink when he hit some turbulence and the cockpit door shut. He said that he had to pick the lock to get back in.

Don't know if it's true, but it makes a good story!
 
Twosheds said:
Yes, I think it was Paul Mantz that flew a Beech 18 through the billboard. A really nice one, too.

Pail Mantz also piloted the plane in Flight of the Phoenix with Jimmy Stewart (my all time favorite movie). Unfortunately he died in a crash during the filming. I don't know this for certain, but I had heard that the scene in which the oil workers see the "Phoenix" fly over their camp and then disappear behind a hill was just moments before the crash. I know for sure he died in that plane (there was actually more than one plane by teh way), but not positive about the other part.

Basil

PS: As an aside, when I was a small boy, I "heard" a Beach 18 crash about a mile from our school in Bridgeport West Virginia. It was a corporate plane that belonged I think to the "Hope Natural Gas" company. We were kids and all out on teh playground at school. As I recall it was a very foggy day and the plane had just taken off from Bridgeport/Clarksburg airport and apparenlty did not climb enough to avoid the hill behind our house. ALl five on board were killed.
 
Twosheds said:
PAUL161 said:
Here's your black and white photo. Me and the old bird before it was redone. Other than the little cub, I flew those old clunkers in the background also. Two D-18s, one converted and a B-25 hearing destroyer!

I love that photo!

Do you mean one of the D-18s was converted? If so, converted from what to what? I can't tell by looking at the photo. Or are you referring to the PA-22? Was it converted from a PA-20?

Great photo!

One of the D-18s came out of Canada and had a cargo door on it. The interior was bare metal and non insulated. In the winter, it would give you a good impression of what it would be like flying a food freezer with wings! It was used for hauling supplies in the back country. To my knowledge, it never had floats on it and to me, that's a little unusual for a bush plane. A fellow bought it and spent a fortune on the interior and exterior, even replaced the cargo door, which in itself cost him a bundle. Had 0 time engines put on it and then rarely ever flew it. We couldn't believe how quiet it was inside after the conversion. I'm not sure which one of the two it was, but I think it was the one closest to the cub. The B-25 propeller tips were close to the fuselage and slightly to the rear of the pilot and co pilot. The high frequency noise they made would eventually effect your hearing. That AC wasn't insulated either. Very few military AC had insulation. (Did you ever notice the clothing that was issued flight crews in the winter)? So every sound came inside.
 
< Pail Mantz also piloted the plane in Flight of the
< Phoenix with Jimmy Stewart (my all time favorite movie).

Also one of my all-time great movies.

Mr Mantz and the director on-site were best friends. The movie filming was 100% completed, but the director was not happy with the shots of the "Phoenix" flying over the oil field. He asked his friend to make one more flight on film. The plane crashed, killing the pilot. The director never overcame the feeling that he had killed his friend.

Don Neff
 
twosheds, beach 18 great looking era aircraft, perhaps many people dont know that a stainless steel spar from wing tip to wing tip was later required to keep the wings from folding off the ship while in flight youd be impressed at the density of this mod. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/savewave.gif
 
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