Keoke.... After reading your response, I had to chuckle a bit, Another reason i did not install my carpet snaps is because i have to remove my whole interior next spring for for a new paint job! And I MAY...... put the snap kit in then, LOL..... Im not kidding! My new carpets lay down great and stay in place just fine without poking holes in my new carpet with those snaps! But if it means i get back in everyone's graces here!!! Oh... ok i will do it!