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I have a 1960 TR-3A that I'm about to start a frame off on. Going through the mountain of parts I've accumulated over the years I found a NOS set of Brookland Windscreen, nicely wrapped, in a box, with one screen crack (but that can be replaced). I was informed by Mr. Baccus at the BHMT that their records for this car serial number range don't exist which in some respects, opens up all kinds of opportunities. The Vin, engine number and coach, appear to be close enough to be original and while it is a 4 speed, it's has a big old "O" in the VIN so it has to be an overdrive car. As my plans for the car evolve, I am definitely going with the Brookland's on this one but have a few questions. Specifically, what is he proper mounting procedure, in as far as period correct? Are they mounted so the full windscreen can be mounted for those cold winter days or what? Anyone have any thoughts?
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TR2/3/3A Brookland Windscreens-use or not to use
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Geo Hahn
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Since these are an after-market accessory I don't know that there is a correct mounting.
I placed the pedestals so that they can remain in place when the windscreen is on though I remove the screen itself -- I suppose it could be left there in addition to the full windscreen but to me that would look strange.
I did make a sort of 'shoe' to be under the outboard pedestal to make the aeroscreen sit more level -- sort of a thick gasket, made of wood and painted black. Without it the little screen slopes downward quite a bit.
Of course all this is simpler on the earlier cars which have Dzus-mounted windscreens that can be easily slid off the car.
It's important to have a passenger that doesn't mind a lot of wind in the face...
I placed the pedestals so that they can remain in place when the windscreen is on though I remove the screen itself -- I suppose it could be left there in addition to the full windscreen but to me that would look strange.
I did make a sort of 'shoe' to be under the outboard pedestal to make the aeroscreen sit more level -- sort of a thick gasket, made of wood and painted black. Without it the little screen slopes downward quite a bit.
Of course all this is simpler on the earlier cars which have Dzus-mounted windscreens that can be easily slid off the car.
It's important to have a passenger that doesn't mind a lot of wind in the face...
TR3TR6
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Like Geo, I installed my Brooklands so that the window can be installed with them on. But, I agree with Geo; they would look kind of funny with both on at the same time. A couple of things I learned, if you are gone to run on the highway with the Brooklands on, I would wear some type of eye protection like goggles. Catching a bug or small object such as sand in the eye is a real possibly. Second, one of the guys in our car club had his Brooklands on when he was involved in an head on at about 35 MPH. Totaled his car, the Brooklands provide no protection if the bonnet comes off.
bgbassplyr
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I don't mean to be gory but this is a gory story and if you don't want to read any further, STOP now.
I had a friend in '65 racing with Brookland windshield, didn't make the turn at the end of the straight, went off the track and into a ditch with a sudden stop. Shoulder belts were not required at the time. He fell forward and drove the Brookland, just below his helmet, into is forehead. Died instantly.
I tell you this story to remind all that Brookland windshields should not be tilted back at an angle such that they could take the top of your head off rather than breaking on impact and to warn of the danger of using this type of windshield. Please think about this in advance. It was awful then and still is.
I had a friend in '65 racing with Brookland windshield, didn't make the turn at the end of the straight, went off the track and into a ditch with a sudden stop. Shoulder belts were not required at the time. He fell forward and drove the Brookland, just below his helmet, into is forehead. Died instantly.
I tell you this story to remind all that Brookland windshields should not be tilted back at an angle such that they could take the top of your head off rather than breaking on impact and to warn of the danger of using this type of windshield. Please think about this in advance. It was awful then and still is.
vivdownunder
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On that theme, don't attach aftermarket aeroscreen pedestals with sheet metal screws. A much safer option is to use metal threads with a flat and split washer under the nut.
Some form of rubber seal between the aeroscreen and scuttle helps keep bugs from streaming through. The factory aeroscreens, also made by Brooklands, had a bottom channel that took a shortened section of the standard windscreen rubber seal. Aftermarket aeroscreens need any such seal glued on.
Viv.
Some form of rubber seal between the aeroscreen and scuttle helps keep bugs from streaming through. The factory aeroscreens, also made by Brooklands, had a bottom channel that took a shortened section of the standard windscreen rubber seal. Aftermarket aeroscreens need any such seal glued on.
Viv.
martx-5
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I generally just put my aeroscreens on for show or short, slow drives, as they don't seem to help all that much with wind in the face. Of course, I do have a couple of pairs of Halcyon WWII RAF type goggles to wear if needed.
BTW, the pic with me and my buddy with the goggles on was the maiden voyage for the TR3 after the resto.
BTW, the pic with me and my buddy with the goggles on was the maiden voyage for the TR3 after the resto.
Wow, that is some list of gory stories but on the other hand, I've never been a really cautious type-raced Lotus Europas' SCCA E production-you life and the road are only separated by a 1/4 inch of poorly laid fiberglass! I like the idea of the threaded fasteners with the rubber washer added in for some protection ! (of the finish) Thanks all