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TR4/4A Anyone have pictures handy of TR4a with TR6 steel rims?
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Those look like 1968 TR250 wheels that used the ROStyle hubcaps. The 1969 TR6 wheels have longer hub cap studs for ROStyle hubcaps. The later TR6 wheels have no hub cap studs and are somewhat wider. However, they look very very similar to the wheels on the pictured TR250.
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Bob
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Bob
Hi Mark, thanks for the follow up. Well I'm really surprised but maybe it's just me but they look like a different profile in the picture you posted. (be clear, I'm not doubting whether or not you know what size tires you have on your car. Grin) Any issues with rubbing or things like that in your experience?
M_Pied_Lourd
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Here is my 250 with the rims/tires from my TR6 on it...
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Tush
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TR3driver
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Thanks, Bob, you just answered my question before I asked it. According to an old Moss catalog, the TR250 wheels were only 5", while even the 69 TR6 wheels were 5.5" (same as later TR6 but as you say, without the studs). I'm guessing that explains why the studs were longer for 69, the cover moved outwards relative to the center of the wheel.
Oh yeah, FWIW, here's a shot of my old TR3A wearing (as I recall) 195/50 on the front and 185/65 on the rear; both mounted on later TR6 wheels (with studs added to carry the TR3 hub caps).
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They are definitely 195's, I have 205's on 6" VTO wheels now. I should have bought some 5.5" alloy wheels and stayed with the 195's. No problems with rubbing with either wheel or tire combo.
GaryW
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Thanks, Bob, you just answered my question before I asked it. According to an old Moss catalog, the TR250 wheels were only 5", while even the 69 TR6 wheels were 5.5" (same as later TR6 but as you say, without the studs). I'm guessing that explains why the studs were longer for 69, the cover moved outwards relative to the center of the wheel.
Oh yeah, FWIW, here's a shot of my old TR3A wearing (as I recall) 195/50 on the front and 185/65 on the rear; both mounted on later TR6 wheels (with studs added to carry the TR3 hub caps).
Randall - do you remember how the studs were added? I'm running 185's all around on TR6 rims on my TR3A. Would really like to have hubcaps again!
Marvin Gruber
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Gary,
Other than machining some studs out, don't know where you could buy any of the studs. Randall might know. I have a spare set of 69 TR6 wheels with studs. PM me if interested.
marv
Other than machining some studs out, don't know where you could buy any of the studs. Randall might know. I have a spare set of 69 TR6 wheels with studs. PM me if interested.
marv
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It takes more than just the studs, as the wheels don't have the flat spots where the studs go. I've been thinking about trying to machine some myself, as one of the wheels got bent and the replacement doesn't have them (yet). What I did originally though, was just tap some holes 1/4-28 and screw in bolts with a short sleeve under the head (cut from 1/4" id steel tubing I had laying around) and a drop of Loctite. Then I used an angle grinder to round and shape the heads. Kind of hokey, but it worked well; I've never lost a hubcap (although the factory TR6 trim rings have popped off a few times on really big bumps).
I had a couple of those 69 wheels, but the studs stuck out too far to suit me. I thought it would look odd to have the hubcap hanging out in mid air (so I never actually tried it and eventually traded the wheels away to someone who wanted them for originality).
FWIW, here are some 205/55 tires (the size I eventually decided I liked best) mounted on the same wheels (but on my 'new' TR3). They clear everything most of the time. I was having a little trouble with them rubbing on the rear fenders in hard corners, not enough to damage the tire but enough to polish up the sidewall; but that seems to have been corrected with the new rear spring. On the 3A, I had to turn the steering stops in a bit to keep them from rubbing on the ADDCO sway bar; but I don't have it on the TR3 yet.
Also FWIW, I just had a pair of Kumho Ecsta 4X tires mounted on the front and so far I really like them. Quieter, smoother ride, and best of all easier to steer than the old (bald) Potenzas. Haven't had a chance to see how they perform when pushed hard, but so far I'm really happy with them.
I had a couple of those 69 wheels, but the studs stuck out too far to suit me. I thought it would look odd to have the hubcap hanging out in mid air (so I never actually tried it and eventually traded the wheels away to someone who wanted them for originality).
FWIW, here are some 205/55 tires (the size I eventually decided I liked best) mounted on the same wheels (but on my 'new' TR3). They clear everything most of the time. I was having a little trouble with them rubbing on the rear fenders in hard corners, not enough to damage the tire but enough to polish up the sidewall; but that seems to have been corrected with the new rear spring. On the 3A, I had to turn the steering stops in a bit to keep them from rubbing on the ADDCO sway bar; but I don't have it on the TR3 yet.
Also FWIW, I just had a pair of Kumho Ecsta 4X tires mounted on the front and so far I really like them. Quieter, smoother ride, and best of all easier to steer than the old (bald) Potenzas. Haven't had a chance to see how they perform when pushed hard, but so far I'm really happy with them.
TexasKnucklehead
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Randall,
Did you add 3 or 4 'shaped' bolts? I keep thinking I want to do that as well but am concerned with drilling the right location. It seems with the lack of a flat spot, you wouldn't have to be off much and the caps wouldn't stay on. I like my tires on TR6 wheels, but I do tire of everyone saying 'you've got TR6 wheels on a TR3'. I have the center of the hubcaps mounted on black (TR6) centers and they look ok, but I'd prefer the hub caps.
Jer
PS Glad you finally got some new tires. You needed them when I saw you.
Did you add 3 or 4 'shaped' bolts? I keep thinking I want to do that as well but am concerned with drilling the right location. It seems with the lack of a flat spot, you wouldn't have to be off much and the caps wouldn't stay on. I like my tires on TR6 wheels, but I do tire of everyone saying 'you've got TR6 wheels on a TR3'. I have the center of the hubcaps mounted on black (TR6) centers and they look ok, but I'd prefer the hub caps.
Jer
PS Glad you finally got some new tires. You needed them when I saw you.
TR3driver
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I only used 3 bolts. Laid a hubcap on the wheel as a pattern, got it centered by eye (the varying distance to the holes in the wheel makes it pretty obvious when it's not centered) and drew a line while holding the cap with the other hand. Then I measured inward from the line, so the outside of the spacer would almost touch the line. That way, I could grind a bit of the spacer away if I wanted the cap looser (but they need to be pretty tight, the sides should distort a bit when mounted). Been a long time ago, but as I recall I only had one hole that was out of place enough to correct; so I just moved a little ways away and drilled another hole. The extra hole gets hidden by the cap, so no one else will know it's there.
The tires have been sitting in the garage for a long time; I wanted to do something about the camber before I put them on the car. Waited as long as I dared, but there were too many projects, the camber is still unmolested and these tires will no doubt wear out on the outside edge first like the last ones did. Oh well. Now I can go back to playing with LED turn signals
The tires have been sitting in the garage for a long time; I wanted to do something about the camber before I put them on the car. Waited as long as I dared, but there were too many projects, the camber is still unmolested and these tires will no doubt wear out on the outside edge first like the last ones did. Oh well. Now I can go back to playing with LED turn signals