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hilsideser

hilsideser

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...on my '93 Ford Ranger. I fasten the seat belt religiously, (and I miss him ,too).
 
I buckle too, though more agnostically :D
 
Had this 'discussion' with him, both on-line and 'phone. Intransigent, he was. :madder: :cry:
 
322 000? I'm missing something here. I think I know, but won't comment until I know for sure. PJ
 
DrEntropy said:
Had this 'discussion' with him, both on-line and 'phone. Intransigent, he was. :madder: :cry:
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Doc - are you saying he absolutly refused to wear a seatbelt?

Yikes ...
 
DrEntropy said:
Had this 'discussion' with him, both on-line and 'phone. Intransigent, he was. :madder: :cry:
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Well, a colonel, after all...

And I say that with all due fondness.
 
I thought I was right in my thinking and I also miss his expert advice. Sad loss in many ways. Didn't know about the seat belt issue. PJ
 
It may have made no difference, but in my li'l brane it is better to be part of the chassis than to be rattled around like a lone bean in a tin can. That very phrase was one I'd used to try and convince him. To no avail.

Gentlemen (and ladies!), WEAR those restraints. PLEASE?!? Look to the empirical data from racing shunts.
 
DrEntropy said:
It may have made no difference, but in my li'l brane it is better to be part of the chassis than to be rattled around like a lone bean in a tin can. That very phrase was one I'd used to try and convince him. To no avail.

Gentlemen (and ladies!), WEAR those restraints. PLEASE?!? Look to the empirical data from racing shunts.
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+1 done funerals for them what wasn't. Never done one for them what was.
 
PAUL161 said:
322 000? I'm missing something here. I think I know, but won't comment until I know for sure. PJ
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Paul, I just rolled the odometer on my little four banger Ford to 322,000 miles. Every mile I get out of her is a blessing. My 1990 F-350 has 175,000 miles on her and is just now broken in.
 
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Now wait a minute. My 49 Willys didn't come with them. My 50 F-1 and 50 Tudor didn't either. Heck, the 64 MK2 didn't.
Not required here if not installed.
 
I don't give a rodent's rump whether it is a requirement by law; rather it is a statistically supported fact that restraints work to decrease fatalities. And more to my point: you are more likely able to maintain control of the vehicle in some radical maneuvering necessitated by an unexpected circumstance. Accident avoidance can be an issue if the pilote is tossed across or out of the vehicle, IYSWIM.

I've owned a few cars that were made before the "law" was mandated. They got lap belts at a minimum. The Elan has "aircraft" type 3" lap belts and 2" shoulder harnesses. Even running an autocross can toss you about violently enough to cause control problems. "Be one with the horse, Spok."
 
:encouragement:

Sad that testosterone often triumphs over logic - and many people suffer because of it.
 
DrEntropy said:
I don't give a rodent's rump whether it is a requirement by law; rather it is a statistically supported fact that restraints work to decrease fatalities. And more to my point: you are more likely able to maintain control of the vehicle in some radical maneuvering necessitated by an unexpected circumstance. Accident avoidance can be an issue if the pilote is tossed across or out of the vehicle, IYSWIM.

I've owned a few cars that were made before the "law" was mandated. They got lap belts at a minimum. The Elan has "aircraft" type 3" lap belts and 2" shoulder harnesses. Even running an autocross can toss you about violently enough to cause control problems. "Be one with the horse, Spok."
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Ah, be careful. I wrote that VERY carefully. Didn't say none of them do not now have seat belts (front seat anyway) and didn't say I didn't use them.
 
It's not at issue, nor making some challenge at odds with YOU, Dave. :wink:

It should be up to ~US~ as individuals as to what we choose to do. But logic and evidence will out.

...knowin' durn'd well ya have had th' floor yanked out from under ya in the past, you appreciate bein' part of th' chassis... or in your case, the boat. :sick: :crazy:
 
When we did the Tudor, oh, 1975, I think...put a 67 Galaxie front seat in it (old frame had crystallized), realized bolts and washers wasn't gonna cut it.
Welded in thick angle, back of the rockers, and under the floorpan.
It ain't going anywhere.
When we went to put them in the F-1, found in the trash under the seat the ones someone had put in years ago.
Still there, same bolts used...the old wedge tyle, left the lever, shove the belt through and let go....FoMoCo on the lever part.
Guessing late 50's they were installed, later owners just shoved them under the seat.

Oh, and turn signals aren't required unless installed....and if factory installed.
1950 Fords they were a dealer option (I have those on the Tudor), 51 standard, delete option.

Got snagged in the Willys just after I got it by one of those (now illegal here) roadside safety checks by the State patrol.
Went through all the stuff, occifer standing right outside my window, asked for a left turn signal.
My arm shot straight out, between his nose and clipboard.

He looked inside, no lever or apparatus on the column, "Okay" he said, "You're good to go".

Prolly get arrested if I did that today.
 
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