TR5/TR250 TR 250 Grill

[tinman58]

Does any body have any ideas about a 250 grill. The one I removed is in pretty bad shape (it was a TR4 grill). They are very hard to find. TRF is going to try and remanfacture some but no date is of today. How hard would it be to use a TR4 grill and make it look like a 250 grill?

 

[TR4nut]

Dan-

Are you thinking of changing the bottom bar on the grill? That to me is the number one difference, the 4A has the hole for the starting crank, the 250 doesn't. If you lived with the hole, I would think some careful painting of the blacked out areas would give you a very decent looking 250 style grill.

Randy

 

[tinman58]

I would like the solid bar on the bottom. For some reason my eye goes right to that part of the 250. I am not sure that if some of the tr 4 grills were installed as left overs. The cd # is 835 so it is pretty low. I would like to get the proper grill.

 

[Andrew Mace]

You say TR4, but I'm assuming you mean TR4A, right?

 

[trrdster2000]

Dan, I have a couple of 4A grills, one bent up and one not so bad (good driver quality). A man with some tigg expertize could make one heck of a 250 grill out of the pair. Just an option.
I have a guy coming for some TR3 stuff tomorrow and I was going to show them to him the grills, but will hold off in case you see going this way is a good possibility.

Wayne

 

[tinman58]

Thanks Wayne, but I need something that will be very presentable. I am finishing a very nice frame off restoration. My old grill is ok,but it is in sorry shape and a 250 grill is what I need. I may have to get a 4A and do a little painting.

 

[kayo]

Does any body have any ideas about a 250 grill. The one I removed is in pretty bad shape (it was a TR4 grill). They are very hard to find. TRF is going to try and remanfacture some but no date is of today. How hard would it be to use a TR4 grill and make it look like a 250 grill?

If you are wiling to spend over 600,00 euros, try Carl Bastuck in Germany. They make a replica grille.
https://www.bastuck.de/shop/index.php?&id=1050220090&cat=10000&hg=10500&ug=10502&detail=1&lang=en

 

[tinman58]

$975.00 A little to steep for me..... But thank you for the info, At least I know that I can get one when I win the lottery...

 

[alanjohnturner]

I am doing a project to recover rough looking 4A grilles. These come up for sale for 100USD or so fairly often but usually suffer from:

1. fractures of the thinner sections
2. missing brackets
3. corroded light cups
4. small dings
5. poor surface finish

The first three problems are quite easily fixed and it would be easy to fit a straight bottom bar or replace any bent bars if you had a scrap one as a donor.

The problem is the surface finish. These were "bright anodised" originally. This process would require a lot of sanding and polishing before you could sucessfully re-do it. This is because the chemicals required would attack and make more obvious any imperfections.

In the UK these get a lot of corrosion and a lot of guys are having "chrome-paint" professionally applied. This is a good solution if you do not need total originality. A 250 grille is actually a bit easier to re-finish because the black paint coves some of the problem areas.

https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/37129-powder-coated-grille-update/

Shops doing bike wheels should be easy to find and would do this easily I expect:
https://www.kustomkoating.co.uk/

 

[HerronScott]

Dan,

I'm curious if they did install TR4A grille's in the earlier ones. Was it painted properly for a TR250?

Here's the picture from Bastuck's website:

Scott

 

[tinman58]

Scott
The grill on my 250 wasn't painted like it should for a 250. And there was some previous body damage that led me to believe that it was in a accident many years ago. The one I have is pitted and the corrosion is on all bars. I have tried to do some clean up on the grill. It would take a lot of hours to make it presentable. But it will still be a 4A grill on a 250.

 

[TuffTR250]

To my knowledge, the TR250 grille is different than the TR4 and TR4A grille. The difference is more than just the painted bars. On a 250 grille the bars have squarish front whereas the TR4 grille bars are more rounded at the front. About 8 to 10 years ago Moss US sold a repro TR250 grille which was very good (and expensive). I see that Moss US, Moss UK, and TRF no longer stock the TR5/250 grille. Looks like the only source is a used one, or a VERY expensive one from Europe. I wish you luck in finding one!
Regards,
Bob

 

[alanjohnturner]

Its right that the TR250 grille has the sharp bars.

But I have a few 4A grilles and some have the same sharp bar as the 250.
There seem to have been two suppliers.

 

[TuffTR250]

That's interesting! I have never seen a 4A with the sharp grille bars.
Regards,
Bob

 

[alanjohnturner]

Just took this shot of the starting-handle hole on a grill that shows the sharp edges. This grille also has thicker supporting ribs and is welded in a different manner.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90670218@N04/12830991163/

I bought this as a scrapper to repair another but it didn't work out because the bars are wrong.
https://flickr.com/gp/90670218@N04/6Bp7uo

So now its serving as a practice job to perfect re-welding/re-finishing these.