-
Hi Guest!
You can help ensure that British Car Forum (BCF) continues to provide a great place to engage in the British car hobby! If you find BCF a beneficial community, please consider supporting our efforts with a subscription.
There are some perks with a member upgrade!**Upgrade Now**
(PS: Subscribers don't see this gawd-aweful banner
Hey - did you know if you click on the title of a thread it will take you to the first unread post since you last visited that thread?
but were afraid to ask: 
STOP!! Never post your email address in open forums. Bots can "harvest" your email! If you must share your email use a Private Message or use the 
smilie in place of the real @
Pretty Please - add it to our Events forum(s) and add to the calendar! >> 
Removing tires from Rims
- Thread starter vping
- Start date
Share this page
Scott_Hower
Luke Skywalker
Offline
Good luck. I think that breaking the bead free of the wheel lip is a major PITA.
My brother-in-law had a set of Fuchs alloys from a Porsche 911; he tried everything to get the old tires off. Finally gave up and took them to a shop whereupon they were popped off in seconds.
My brother-in-law had a set of Fuchs alloys from a Porsche 911; he tried everything to get the old tires off. Finally gave up and took them to a shop whereupon they were popped off in seconds.
swift6
Yoda
Offline
[ QUOTE ]
Other than taking it down to the tire shop, how can one do this at home.
[/ QUOTE ]
Sledge hammer and good aim to break the bead. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif
After that you can lever or cut to get the rubber all the way off.
Paying a tireshop a few bucks will cost less than bad aim with the sledge though. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
Other than taking it down to the tire shop, how can one do this at home.
[/ QUOTE ]
Sledge hammer and good aim to break the bead. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif
After that you can lever or cut to get the rubber all the way off.
Paying a tireshop a few bucks will cost less than bad aim with the sledge though. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
Offline
This is about as bad as the "tire pressure recommendation" thread... With PRACTICE it can be done with arcane implements called... ready?... "Tire Irons". It's not a rewarding job. Radials are actually not that bad but making the acquaintance of a good tire buster (this is harder than it may sound) is the BEST way to deal with it. If you're diplomatic and show both sympathy for workload and concern for "professionalism" you can be surprised at the response from "commercial" tire store types.
All that said, I'd HATE to have to find a "new" place to do my tire work. Tho "Tire Kingdom" has been high on my "chain store" list if push comes to DIY.
All that said, I'd HATE to have to find a "new" place to do my tire work. Tho "Tire Kingdom" has been high on my "chain store" list if push comes to DIY.
Harry_Ward
Jedi Knight
Offline
My favorite topic! - Manual Labor 101
You buy 2 - 2 foot long tire irons with angled spoon ends and a big rubber hammer. First drip a soap and water solution all around the tire/rim bead edge. If the tire hasn't been off in a while you will need a good sized truck or junky car to run over the the tire to break the edge (bead) of the tire free from the rim. Oh, Just run over the tire portion and don't run over the steel rim (rims bend and tires cut). Orrr.. for a hundred bucks you could buy a tire bead breaker. It's this marvey device where the tire sits on the floor and it has this handle with a shaft attached to this curved piece of steel which sits along the bead edge that you are to simply push down on handle and the tire bead magically breaks away from the rim (Don't believe it). I think Harbor freight sells em. Once the bead is broken you then wrestle with the tire with the tire irons working the outer rubber edge of the tire in short bites all the way round until one complete end of the tire pops off the edge of the rim bead. Take too big of a bite and you will not be able to stretch the tire over the rim. You then proceed to do the same thing with the other side of the tire lip edge prying away in short grabs to pull the edge of the tire lip over the rim edge. Once you seperate the tire from the rim you sit down with the sweat dripping down from just about everywhere and you say, why didn't I just take this thing down to the local garage! Putting the new tire on is pretty much a piece of cake once the rim is cleaned. You dab on the soapy water solution all over the edge of the tire. You then place the tire on a slight angle on the rim and stand, jump, and beat it as far as it will go onto the rim with BRH(Big Rubber Hammer) without hitting the rim (broken ankles, hands, and hammer shock to hand and wrist will ensue). Once you get it on the one edge of the tire you pry away with those tire irons again. Once the first side is on then you can get the other edge started in the same way as previously described but then you need to go back to those wrestling tire irons. In small bites pry the tire edge onto the rim. Do not take too big of a bite with the tire iron or you could break the rim if its a chromey or wire wheel type. Sometimes you get lucky and you can just stand on the tire at this point and press it over the lip of the rim. Sometimes you can't. If it's a steel rim you probably won't have to worry too much about damage if doing it by hand. This whole process takes practice and over time you can get pretty good at it. In order to get air into the tire you need to compress or bounce the tire to push out the tire bead to get the air in especially if it's a tubeless tire. Once again after you are done with this process you will be asking yourself why I didn't just bring the tire to the local tire place. Oh... and did I explain that you probably have to bring it to the local garage anyway if you want the tire speed balanced? Otherwise, it may just do the wheel hop dance thing at speed down the road.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
You buy 2 - 2 foot long tire irons with angled spoon ends and a big rubber hammer. First drip a soap and water solution all around the tire/rim bead edge. If the tire hasn't been off in a while you will need a good sized truck or junky car to run over the the tire to break the edge (bead) of the tire free from the rim. Oh, Just run over the tire portion and don't run over the steel rim (rims bend and tires cut). Orrr.. for a hundred bucks you could buy a tire bead breaker. It's this marvey device where the tire sits on the floor and it has this handle with a shaft attached to this curved piece of steel which sits along the bead edge that you are to simply push down on handle and the tire bead magically breaks away from the rim (Don't believe it). I think Harbor freight sells em. Once the bead is broken you then wrestle with the tire with the tire irons working the outer rubber edge of the tire in short bites all the way round until one complete end of the tire pops off the edge of the rim bead. Take too big of a bite and you will not be able to stretch the tire over the rim. You then proceed to do the same thing with the other side of the tire lip edge prying away in short grabs to pull the edge of the tire lip over the rim edge. Once you seperate the tire from the rim you sit down with the sweat dripping down from just about everywhere and you say, why didn't I just take this thing down to the local garage! Putting the new tire on is pretty much a piece of cake once the rim is cleaned. You dab on the soapy water solution all over the edge of the tire. You then place the tire on a slight angle on the rim and stand, jump, and beat it as far as it will go onto the rim with BRH(Big Rubber Hammer) without hitting the rim (broken ankles, hands, and hammer shock to hand and wrist will ensue). Once you get it on the one edge of the tire you pry away with those tire irons again. Once the first side is on then you can get the other edge started in the same way as previously described but then you need to go back to those wrestling tire irons. In small bites pry the tire edge onto the rim. Do not take too big of a bite with the tire iron or you could break the rim if its a chromey or wire wheel type. Sometimes you get lucky and you can just stand on the tire at this point and press it over the lip of the rim. Sometimes you can't. If it's a steel rim you probably won't have to worry too much about damage if doing it by hand. This whole process takes practice and over time you can get pretty good at it. In order to get air into the tire you need to compress or bounce the tire to push out the tire bead to get the air in especially if it's a tubeless tire. Once again after you are done with this process you will be asking yourself why I didn't just bring the tire to the local tire place. Oh... and did I explain that you probably have to bring it to the local garage anyway if you want the tire speed balanced? Otherwise, it may just do the wheel hop dance thing at speed down the road.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
kennypinkerton
Yoda
Offline
I like to go to OK Tires... they've resealed the beads and checked for leaks, on tires I've not bought from them for $10 (4-tires).... They've given me 4 used tires when I was broke and running on 4 leaky bald tires... and one of their local stores have the best old-school alignment guy in the business.
Banjo
Yoda
Offline
Big "C" clamp and 2X4s to break the beads. set the 2X4 across the opposite bead than the one your working on, set the cast end of the clamp on the board, so the clamp looks like one of those parking boots. and screw the cup into the bead of the tire as close to the rim as possible. that should break the bead. You may need to work around the rim in a few spots.
Biggest problem here is finding a "C" clamp that big.
Another way is to contrive some kind of lever. Set the tire next to something you can hook a bar under, set a wood block on the bead, and lever down on the bar.
Break both beads before trying to remove the tire.
Then use a pair of big pry bars to get the bead over the rim. make sure to push down on the bead opposite the area your trying to bring over the lip, so it drops into the channel that gives it more clearance. A third pry bar might be a good idea to to help hold things in place while you move around the rim.
If you don't care about the rims (I.E. breaking down the tires to dispose of everything) I'd reccomend just cutting the beads through with a Sawzall.
All in all it's a bear of a way to do tires.. But it can be done /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hammer.gif
Biggest problem here is finding a "C" clamp that big.
Another way is to contrive some kind of lever. Set the tire next to something you can hook a bar under, set a wood block on the bead, and lever down on the bar.
Break both beads before trying to remove the tire.
Then use a pair of big pry bars to get the bead over the rim. make sure to push down on the bead opposite the area your trying to bring over the lip, so it drops into the channel that gives it more clearance. A third pry bar might be a good idea to to help hold things in place while you move around the rim.
If you don't care about the rims (I.E. breaking down the tires to dispose of everything) I'd reccomend just cutting the beads through with a Sawzall.
All in all it's a bear of a way to do tires.. But it can be done /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hammer.gif
Banjo
Yoda
Offline
OK... You never specified exactly what you were trying to do (or else I glanced over it) other that getting tires off rims...
sooooooooooo.. I diden't know if you were trying to save either the tires or the rims.. Now I know! hehehehe
Any hooo
How about.. lay the tire under your daily driver, Jack the car up and set a block if wood on the tire right agenst the rim and underneath the pinchweld of your dailies rocker panal(or framerail)
Than let the car down gently to break the bead
(warning!!! I accept NO responsibility for any possible damage or injury) hehehe
Actually, if they're TD rims. it shoulden't be all that hard to break the beads loose. There's no "safety lip" behind the bead to hold it in place, so it should come loose fairly easily.
sooooooooooo.. I diden't know if you were trying to save either the tires or the rims.. Now I know! hehehehe
Any hooo
How about.. lay the tire under your daily driver, Jack the car up and set a block if wood on the tire right agenst the rim and underneath the pinchweld of your dailies rocker panal(or framerail)
Than let the car down gently to break the bead
(warning!!! I accept NO responsibility for any possible damage or injury) hehehe
Actually, if they're TD rims. it shoulden't be all that hard to break the beads loose. There's no "safety lip" behind the bead to hold it in place, so it should come loose fairly easily.
kennypinkerton
Yoda
Offline
I once popped a tire off the rim by driving over a 1.5 ft high curb /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif... I'd recommend it... unless you want to use the wheel, and the suspension components again - hehehehehehehe. Ironically I was going to get new tires... and luckily, they were able to beat the rim back into semi-useable shape (it held air and balanced)