• Hi Guest! Being a Paying Supporter is NOT a requirement to participate at BCF. However, subscribing will help ensure we can continue to serve the LBC community for years to come. If you enjoy BCF and find our forum a useful resource...Please consider supporting us by **Upgrading**
    (PS: Subscribers don't see this banner)
Tips
Tips

New Europa - not for North America though

78Z

Darth Vader
Country flag
Offline
Its now offical. Looks good - must be running out of E names to re-use the Europa name on a GT. The origional Europa wasn't sold in North America (the series one wasn't sold even in the UK ) to begin with either so there is some hope.

https://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=862
 

aeronca65t

Great Pumpkin
Offline
Now that is actually a car I'd like for the street (if it was affordable...which I doubt).
Behind it all, it appears to be a stretched Elise. They are a little tight for me. This would be *just perfect*.

Interesting that they would recycle the Europa name....the orignal Europa did not have great reviews and even now, they are not particularly valuable (though I think they are sort of neat).
 

Nunyas

Yoda
Offline
I guess affordable is in the eye of the beholder... errrr... in the wallet of the beholder rather. The article quoted an expected MSRP of 49000 Euros. At current conversion rates that's about $57,700 USD. A bit more expensive than the Elise and Exige. Then again, this Europa S seems to be a different bread of car all together. The Lotus website is predicting the car to be 995KG, with 200HP and 200lbsft of torque, from a 2000cc turbo charged engine. Other items of interest are the practicalness of the car is much better than the Elise due to larger luggage space, and egress is supposed to be much easier. Let's not forget the full leather and carpeted interior... heh. (Lotus Europa Sepcs on the official Lotus site) Seems to be a more 'civilized' beast than the Elise and Exige... in print anyways... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Lotus's site seems to be placing the car as a GT (Grand Tourer) or "Business Class". Looks like a great car to me... but like the Elise and Exige out of my wallet range. If this is meant to target the GT market, I'm not totally sure what cars fall into that class... What cars would that be... BMW? Merc Benz? Mustangs? Civics? Maximas? Lexus? Evolutions & WRX STi's? *shrug* Grand Tourer seems to be an overly generic term that's loosely applied to a wide range of cars that have an extremely wide range of performance...

At the expected price point, I'd have to gander at BMW, Merc Bez and other Sport "luxury" cars being primary competitors... Good looking car over all... with a lot of competition to over come... I hope it does well and gets to see the light of day on our side of the pond. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

DrEntropy

Great Pumpkin
Gold
Country flag
Offline
My "snipe" strategy of Lotus procurement has always been thus: Wait 'til the local dentist/doctor/lawyer soon-to-be PO has made a trip to the dealership and paid for the first non-warranty service, or the thing pooped out someplace and needed to be brought home on a hook 'cause he had no practical automotive MacGyverin' skills.... A ~MUCH~ reduced price will make the aquisition of a Lotus nearly palatable /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

Nunyas

Yoda
Offline
hmmmmm... I wonder how long it'll take for one of these new type Lotuses... or would that be Loti? anyways, I wonder how long it'll take before one of these new types breaks down with the Nippon technology in the engines...
 

DrEntropy

Great Pumpkin
Gold
Country flag
Offline
Wouldn't count on it bein' th' engine wot gives out. It'll more likely be th' owner's patience/wallet/wife wot'll make th' decision for 'em with that model, IYSWIM. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

Nunyas

Yoda
Offline
ya know... I really like the styling of the new Europa S... Not quite as agressive looking as an Elise/Exige but still has enough agressiveness/style to be a real head turner
 
Offline
Way overpriced I think, but then again you can get a '05/6 Mustang GT for less than $30,000 US. At over 250 HP, and tame manners at the table (and nice, but arguable/opinionated design features), I think all the "GT" manufacturers should be shooting at the ford's price range, or just under them!

You know, for $57,000 Dollars, you can get a really nice, slightly used Viper, C-6 Corvette, Ferrari, Aston Martin, XKE, or half a dozen of good vintage Loti.
 

Nunyas

Yoda
Offline
yeah... but even with a higher horse power engine the Stang has to overcome the weight difference....

maybe it's targetting the more upscale GT market? like the Infiniti version of the 350Z? *shrug*
 

DrEntropy

Great Pumpkin
Gold
Country flag
Offline
[ QUOTE ]

You know, for $57,000 Dollars, you can get a really nice, slightly used Viper, C-6 Corvette, Ferrari, Aston Martin, XKE, or half a dozen of good vintage Loti.

[/ QUOTE ]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/iagree.gif
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
M Lotus Europa Spiral Pins Lotus 9
B Anyone have a Europa Twin Cam for sale? Lotus 6
Grantura_MKI Europa at auction. Lotus 6
glemon Europa S2 Lotus 2
X Help me celebrate my Europa's 40th birthday! Lotus 1
J Lotus europa 5 speed need recommendation for transmition work [Flordia] Lotus 3
Bob Claffie Europa Project Lotus 1
K Heigt of a Lotus Europa? Lotus 5
D Europa a la Foose Lotus 10
D For sale Daytona Europa Lotus 1
jjbunn Lotus Europa - what to look for? Lotus 12
aeronca65t Europa Spotted 13
H Boy do I love it when things work....Becker Europa Austin Healey 16
Reh Lotus Europa Wheels Triumph 3
Roger My '72 Europa Lotus 27
JodyFKerr Europa Technical and Parts information Lotus 6
RobT Europa 47 GKN Sighting Lotus 3
P Racing Europa Lotus 2
M europa,wider,lower,tires,wheels Lotus 0
Roger Europa TC Brakes Lotus 5
Roger My Elise has company - '72 Europa Lotus 9
D Saw a nice Europa today--one of you guys? Lotus 6
R6MGS Europa grills Lotus 15
R6MGS Europa with Mazda Rotary engine Lotus 69
C Europa Twin Cam Autocross Car Lotus 3
walt Help identify renault engine in 71 S2 europa Lotus 1
RobT Europa Up-date Lotus 8
RobT Europa "Basket Case" Question Lotus 6
RobT Thinking of buying a Lotus Europa S2... Am I nuts? Lotus 9
RobT Thinking about a Lotus Europa S2... Am I nuts!! Triumph 24
LeeMcKee Looking for a Europa air dam Lotus 0
JamesWilson Europa- Buying Guidelines wanted Lotus 19
Y Cross Reference on Brakes for Europa Lotus 2
Y Restarting a stored Europa issues Part #2 Lotus 0
Y Restarting a stored Europa issues Lotus 1
Y Jacking points and jack stand placement on Europa Lotus 1
Y Europa Towing Points Lotus 2
Y Thinking of a Europa for my next car Lotus 2
G My 1969 Lotus Europa S2 is FOR SALE! Lotus 0
CraigFL 220HP Europa??? Lotus 7
J Lotus Europa for sale..What do U think? Lotus 19
Roger Lotus Europa for sale Lotus 4
G Voltage Regulator - Europa S2 Lotus 2
G 2 Weber 45's; nice Europa new resto . for sale Lotus 0
vette North East Tires Austin Healey 16
R General TR Anyone going to TRA in North Georgia? Triumph 0
C TR2/3/3A Anyone in Washington State North of Seattle? Triumph 4
RickB MGB Taking a run north this weekend, Bellingham & Blaine MG 4
J TR2/3/3A TR3 mechanics in Raleigh/Durham North Carolina area? Triumph 7
Tom74TR6 Off Topic British Cars and Coffee in North Salem NY Nov 1st MG 0

Similar threads

Top