Moving on to the generator

[drooartz]

So after I got my car started last night I went on a little spin through my town. It was dusk, so I had the headights on. After maybe 20 minutes or so of driving about I noticed that the ignition light was on. Turning off the headlights didn't seem to help, nor did revving up the engine a bit. I did notice when I first started the car that the light didn't go out right away. A quick blip of the throttle seemed to make it turn off, though.

I'm going to run through the generator tests listed in the shop manual tonight, but does anyone else have any good tests to run? I figure to also test the battery and make sure it is in good shape.

Also, does anyone know what sort of grease to put in the little "oiler" dohickey on the early style generator? Manual says to use a "high melting point grease"--is this the same as I will use to grease the various zerks on the chassis?

 

[Kurtis]

Drew,

Check all your connections first (generator to control box, etc.). I know on my car, things are pretty tight, and I've knocked the wire loose from the generator to the control box while messing around with something else on that side (like the distributor). I usually don't notice it until I start the car up and see the ignition light stay on.

 

[DrEntropy]

The charge problem will likely be the brushes and/or the commutator. Generator brushes are a cheap, easy fix. Use red ScotchBrite to polish up the commutator, put in a new set of brushes and Tunebug will be happy again.

As for the grease, I'd say LubriPlate, but best to get other opinions.

EDIT: WallyMart carries Castrol "Marine Bearing Grease" in tubes on the shelf... that'd also be a good one.

 

[Deleted member 3577]

You should have a 2 bobbin control box.

Try cleaning the contact points on the left (voltage regulator) relay.

Use tuner cleaner and glass paper.

Sometimes that does the trick.

 

[DrEntropy]

Control box... good thing you guys are payin' attention. I sure wasn't. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Deleted member 3577]

Yes the famous Lucas control box.......

The only thing less reliable than the Lucas flasher relay.

I'm often checking over my shoulder to verify blinky-blinky.

And I watch my ammeter like its the coolant temp gage at a nuclear power plant. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[drooartz]

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Use tuner cleaner and glass paper

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Showing my ignorance once again--what would these 2 items be? Glass paper I assume is some sort of sand paper, but tune cleaner?

Thanks all for the suggestions. I'll have plenty to look at when I get home after work.

 

[piman]

Hello droo,

glasspaper is what carpenters use to sand woodwork. Normal engineering abrasive cloths and papers are not really suitable for electrical maintenance as the abrasive gets into the works.

Alec

 

[Morris]

I know everyone may think I am a sacrelige, but why not chunk that generator and get you a nice, off the shelf alternator.

Generators suck.

 

[Deleted member 3577]

Try just the tuner cleaner first.

It can be purchased at a store that services electronics.
(Radio Shack tuner cleaner sucks)

Or you could use Automotive electrical motor cleaner.
And ask the guys at Napa if they have any points cleaning paper (1000 grit or finer)

 

[Trevor Jessie]

they're quaint... like a bugeye.

I, however, have switched to an alternator since I drive a midget. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Deleted member 3577]

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Generators suck.

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Yes but....Can you fix your alternator roadside, with a rock & a stick? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[DrEntropy]

To the contrary, Morris: They're nearly infintely renewable! Bearings are about six bucks, brushes about the same. If it fries due to a problem upstream it'd be nasty but I'll live with the "danger". I've a rebuild "kit" inna glovebox!

I think you mistook the smogpump for the generator makin' that sucking sound. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif

 

[drooartz]

I'm strangely happy that my car still has the generator and + ground. If nothing else, it makes it easy to use the factory manuals/diagrams since everything still matches up. As long as the car charges, I'm happy. I've no plans to run anything but the basic electrical stuff (lights, gauges, engine, etc.--no radio or other extras) so don't need the extra output of an alternator. Fussing with this old, funky stuff is part of the fun for me. I'm working towards reliability, but I expect it to take a while. Always some little bit to sort out, especially at the beginning.

Heck, I've still got a 948 and drum brakes. Just part of the charm for me. Now I could see some day building a hot box Sprite with a 1275, 5-speed, supercharger, discs... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[DrEntropy]

Just find a "needy" Lotus Elan and save a lot of grief!

Elans used to be called: "Super Spridgets!"


EDIT: Well, mebbe a little "less grief."

 

[drooartz]

When it comes right down to it, one old car is just about the right amount of tinkering for me. I'd get confused with more than one! A speedy LBC would be fun, but I won't give up the Tunebug, or my hopefully-soon-to-be motorcycle. So I'll just keep puttering away on what I have and be happy for it.

 

[drooartz]

... although, if I someone handed me an Elan, or a Caterham Seven, or an original Mini Cooper S, I wouldn't turn it away! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[DrEntropy]

mehheh... well, I've the willpower of a RAT, so one of ~anything~ is about like an appetizer to someone starving... Just ain't enuff THERE somehow. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Deleted member 3577]

I'm seriously thinking Europa.....

It would be a luxury car next to the Elva....Heat,weather-resistance & even a dome light.....WOW

Got to get rid of the DeLo first.....Only have space for 2 cars in the garage.

 

[GB1]

Sadly, garage space never hindered me, I see it, I want it, I buy it.

Then I look like the guy in the Home Depot parking lot who is driving a Maxima with 10 60lb bags of cement and 20 2x4x10's.

duh