Lotus Elise Import

[MichelVaillant]

Howdy,
I just moved to NAshville/TN from Germany. I still have my 1998 Lotus Elise S1 there, but would like to haul it over the pond. I just cannot live without it...
But here is the problem: It is obviously impossible to get it through customs, and even more impossible to get it registered. Does anyone here have experience in importing cars?
I need my daily Lotus fix!!!!!!!

Have a good one,
Michael

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[DrEntropy]

Ah... I shoulda "read ahead". :wink:

 

[GeeBee1]

I got caught as well :wink:

 

[PAUL161]

Hi Michel! Welcome to the forum. Why is it imposable to get the car through customs? Seem there must be a solution to your dilemma.

 

[MichelVaillant]

Paul,
the Elise S1 was never imported to the USA. And there is a list on the government website of all cars that can be imported, and the Elise is on some kind of a "red list", cause it can't even be temporarely imported (for a show or race, for example)
I know that a hand full of Elises were imported by Lotus America, but only as race cars, with no title.

 

[PAUL161]

Not that this is the same scenario but, Australia had a problem with shipping MGBs into their country due to some very expensive import problems on new vehicles. The problem was solved by the cars being shipped striped down, put in boxes/crates and shipped as <span style="font-weight: bold">car parts</span> and reassembled in Australia. Don't know if you thought of this, but it might be an avenue to pursue. Once the car is here, there are ways to get it titled.

If the cost is not prohibitive and car parts are allowed, have it striped down and put in a shipping container.

 

[DrEntropy]

I recall the key word being "USED" car parts...

 

[PAUL161]

Your right Doc! "USED" is the key word!

 

[MichelVaillant]

Thanks for the tips so far!
Honestly, that's exatly what I thought after I ran out of options... apart the similar crazy thought of shipping my Else to Canada and simply drive across the border on my german license plates on a tourist basis (I'm still no resident, but the paperwork is in the pipeline).
You know, I have that car for 10 years now, bought it new and it is kinda the only thing I really don't wanna part with. And I have to part with a lot of things since I decided to live here in the States. Like Autobahns...
It amazes me that I haven't found a person yet that knows the import business. I cn't be the first one who wants his car here...
In Europe it is so easy. If you buy a car, for example in the States, you can import it, no matter what. Only if you want to register it you have to bring the according paperwork. If you just want to admire it in your garage, you pay customs and that's that. No more questions. And then you can drive it on temporary plates every now and then if you want to.
Where is the point in that protectionism here?

 

[MoPho]

There are a few guys driving around in S1 Elise's here in CA, but for the most part you can't bring them in. You might want to do a search on lotustalk.com (which is mostly an Elise forum), it has been discussed before.

You could always buy a Caterham which is even more fun than the Elise :wink:

 

[Tullamore]

Yes I have seen S1 Elise's here so I know it is possible to get them to the states and register them.

Here are some for sale here in the states, maybe you could call them ask them.

https://autos.aol.com/used-list/year-1999/make1-Lotus/model1-Elise

 

[MoPho]

Any S1 Elise's that were brought into the US were brought in for "off road use only". Some people may have found creative ways to register them in their state, but that does not mean it is legal in the eyes of the federal govt. and they risk the chance of the car being confiscated and crushed.


Most recent discussion about it here https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f3/street-legal-car-99-190r-59955/

 

[vagt6]

You also might contact your state's franchised auto dealer association. They may be able to point you in the right direction for the info you require on importing the Elise.

For example, in VA it's VADA (Virginia Automobile Dealer's Association). They represent most if not all new (franchised) auto dealers in the state. They may have someone on staff who can get you this info.

If not, maybe bribe a franchised dealer to import the car for you???

Interesting question, please let us know what happens.

 

[MichelVaillant]

You could always buy a Caterham which is even more fun than the Elise :wink:

After 100,000 miles in my elise I doubt that statement...

I want more from a car than just being fast around corners. My Elise was my only car for a long time and carried me around Europe no matter what weather or distance. Longest trip almost 1000 miles in a day, 2 people plus luggage from Germany to southern France, without being surgically removed from the car afterwards. It is just that it's a real car, not a road legal Kart. Sorry 7-owners, no offense!!!
But thanks for the link, I will check that.
And if it's impossible, I'll keep the car in Germany and build myself a Lotus XI

 

[MoPho]

You could always buy a Caterham which is even more fun than the Elise :wink:

After 100,000 miles in my elise I doubt that statement...

I want more from a car than just being fast around corners. My Elise was my only car for a long time and carried me around Europe no matter what weather or distance. Longest trip almost 1000 miles in a day, 2 people plus luggage from Germany to southern France, without being surgically removed from the car afterwards. It is just that it's a real car, not a road legal Kart. Sorry 7-owners, no offense!!!
But thanks for the link, I will check that.
And if it's impossible, I'll keep the car in Germany and build myself a Lotus XI

I said more <span style="text-decoration: underline">fun</span> not more practical :wink:
We have a Supercharged Elise, a Caterham, and a heavily modified Elan and the Seven is, by far, the most fun/exciting to drive.

If practicality and weather are important factors to you, an Eleven is not any better than a Seven (actually it is worse).

 

[MichelVaillant]

Yes,
a Eleven isn't exactly a replacement for an Elise. And that is the point: If I cannot have my Elise, I want something different. And the shape of the Eleven is simply beautiful, and with a modern drivetrain quite easy on maintenance. A "real" one is way out of financial reach...

 

[Mickey Richaud]

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