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Been thinkin,I am having a heck of a time figuring out my computer and this forum. Which leads me to wonder, now that cars are more and more computerised...are they gonna take my drivers license away?
 
Not as long as your car is a forty year old English lump! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
 
never mind them young whipper-snappers at that bloody DMV government office...... Back in the day, they didn't need no stinkin' drivers licenses!!!! Blasted younguns 'kin keep their new-fangled rules n' regulations, anyway......

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Just remember, computers don't program themselves, Man does! What's that tell you? But, if the day comes that they do program themselves, were in big trouble. And it all started with a little adding machine. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif PJ
 
"Open the driver-side door please, Hal."
 
"I've picked up a fault in the SU HS4 Unit"

Tis the reason I'm ditching my 2000 van and using the GT as my DD. Dealer wanted $260 to change the thermostat, because there all this 'electronic stuff' that had to be removed first.
What is a thermostat change in a B, $10 plus gasket?
Wifes dealer wanted $140 to change plugs in a Toyota. I'm done with all that stuff, don't need a computer to tell me I'm inept.
 
Noted yesterday the neighbors new car gives the tire pressures even. Some kind of a GMC SUV thing.

However he does use my air compressor. hehe.

No wonder those things so darn expensive.
 
Tire pressure? The Sky I bought has a diagnostics uplink to On Star which they can e-mail to me to tell me what's wrong or right with the car. They can also unlock the doors. Start the engine if I need them to and I don't know what else. Makes me wonder if they can also tweak something and break it? I understand some of the more expensives have complete computeriaed systems to the point where, "open the drivers side door please, Hal?" is probably going to be more a reality than fiction. Although the same principles still apply, spark, fuel, compression, Kaboom, exhaust.
 
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Maybe its time for Low-Tech again- call it appropriate technology, user/environment friendly, etc. and charge more for the ease and convenience of being able to do it simply.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif

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I agree with that too but twenty (heck probably only ten) years from now think how the cars built today will look then. I remember when electronic ignition first came out and I was all petrified by the technology of it all. This thing I'm typing on right now I thought I would never use either. Change is inevitable.
 
"ADAPT OR DIE!!!"

Bah! "On-Star" operators are likely listenin' to your conversations in the car outta boredom with their jobs already...

~IF~ fossil fuels are still distributed I'll be driving what I have now. If I gotta figger a way to store and transfer methane I ~may~ still have some modicum of independent mobility... Go "Yestertech" wherever possible. If ya can't fix it/control it/ KILL it, ya shouldn't OWN it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif
 
I was gonna say the same thing Doc... But I didn't want to sound too paranoid. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I won't buy anything with satellite coms on it (in a car anyway, and not knowingly). Not that I'm doing anything illegal... just that the whole OnStar thing is a little too Orwellian for me.
 
CELL PHONES are too Orwellian. We're trapped. No way out. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif


...give up... it'll be okay.... jus' relax....

mehheh.

Where's my "Adult Strength Ridalin"?!?!?!
 
No DrE, it's the GM Motto! "You will all be assimilated" Comes with OnStar if you want it or not. After the warrantees up I'm going to look at it to see if it can be ripped out (disconnected) but it will probably just electrocute me and throw me out the door.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif
 
5000 computers will start flashing red if you rip it out... then the black SUV's will start appearing. hehehehehehehehe.
 
Actually I thought it was GMs attempt to transition into a services industry. Sell the car at a loss, make it back on subscriptions...
 
Now, what would computers be like today if the British had invented and developed them? I know, I know, somewhere out there is some proud Brit saying..."But we did!"
 
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Now, what would computers be like today if the British had invented and developed them? I know, I know, somewhere out there is some proud Brit saying..."But we did!"

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but... not seeing his posts... he still on the old Lucas model. - lol /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif
 
here's food-for-thought.....

"drive by wire" has been around for a few years. That means you step on the gas pedal, connected to a sensor, which sends a signal to the computer. The throttle is then opened or closed by a stepper motor via the computer.

Ergo, the driver has no direct control (cable/linkage) over the throttle. Corvette is the first example that comes to mind.

The next geenration of the technology was "anti-crash" features. Mercedes uses a proximity sensor to determine if you're about to run into something. If it thinks a collision is inevitable, the computer links into the anti-lock brake ssytem, over-rides the brake pedal, and stops the car for you.

Now Lexus has one-upped the game with its "self park" feature. Guess what! Now the computer tells the car how to steer!!! I haven't heard whether or not the driver is completly over-ridden, or if there is still a mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the tires.

Further, it has been proposed, and even implemented in test programs, that via satellite telemetry an emissions failure can be reported to a monitoring center; and if the vehicle is not repaired within a prescribed amount of time, the car is disabled. I'm not current, but the program was being considered for OBD-IV.

And for lovers of photographic speed-measurement devices.... You guessed it! There has already been at least one nationally publicized lawsuit involving one rental car company who installed speed sensing devices which communicated when drivers broke the speed limit in rented cars - and issued citations when the cars were returned! Can you imagine automatically getting a ticket every time you broke the speed limit, via a satellite-tellemtry system linked to the highway patrol computer? The technology is absolutely present, and I'm sure some in our beaurocracy would love to protect us from the deadly practice of exceeding the posted speed limits..... (And make a buck in the process)
 
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Now, what would computers be like today if the British had invented and developed them? I know, I know, somewhere out there is some proud Brit saying..."But we did!"

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They'd leak oil all over the desk!
 
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