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HEALEYJAG

HEALEYJAG

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Well the Biltmore auction 100 is on Ebay..sold for 55 grand ..Reid has seen it and has a few statements about it on his blog...maybe we can get more of his opinion...wrong color exterior, interior..rear body panels etc...I believe he said it was more of a BN-1 than a BN-2.
 
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...Reid has seen it and has a few statements about it on his blog...maybe we can get more of his opinion...

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I'm sad to see this car presented this way.

Yes, I saw it at the RM Auction last month, and although I did not witness it cross the auction block, I understand that it achieved a winning bid of $50,000. In my opinion, that would be top money for a legitimate BN1 or BN2 with a documented, dealer-installed Le Mans Engine Modification Kit.

I do not want to run the risk of making statements here that may have legal ramifications, but suffice to say that I would not touch this car, and, based upon my first-hand inspection and detailed knoweldge of this model, I have serious, ahem, reservations about its provenance.

<font color="red">Caveat emptor. </font>
 
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ouch.

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What chu Ouchin about SHG ? thats some potential new business for you IMOP.--Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
shg,remember the vice pres. buddy is a lawyer as well,mite be open season,godda cull that herd somehow! 'bang'---- duck! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif
 
I have not seen the car, wrong color or not. If the market would bear $50K then more power to him !
I know that is frustrating for those of us that spent the time and money to make ours correct.
 
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I have not seen the car, wrong color or not. If the market would bear $50K then more power to him !
I know that is frustrating for those of us that spent the time and money to make ours correct.

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My reservations about the car have nothing to do with the colors of the paint or interior.
 
HI Reid, I think CascadeWilly was responding to the intial speculation introduced by HealeyJag as to what might be wrong with that car when he formlated his response to the Poet.---Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Hey Reid,

In response to HEALEYJAG's comments, It really does matter how the car was done, The fact remains that if the guy got $55K or more...black green pink or purple more power to him. That just drives the price of our cars that are restored as original.

Willy
 
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HI Reid, I think CascadeWilly was responding to the intial speculation introduced by HealeyJag as to what might be wrong with that car when he formlated his response to the Poet.---Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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That's fine, but I'm the one who inspected the car, and this post started out asking me for my impressions based on that. So for anyone who inferred that I had reservations about it due in part or in whole to its unusual color scheme (which I actually kind of like), I want to clarify that my reservations have nothing to do with the authenticity or quality of the restoration. Therefore a discussion of the color scheme of the car is off-topic and makes me think that anyone going there does not understand what I said, so I clarified.

It may be a fine running and driving car. You may love the colors. Heck, it might even win trophies at car shows. None of that changes what I observed about its apparent provenance versus how it was represented. If that's still not clear and you're still curious, email me privately: editor@healeyclub.org

On the subject of driving up the value of our cars - also not the subject of this thread - I wrote an editorial about that very subject exactly one year ago following the previous Barrett-Jackson auction. I'll attach it if you'd like to read it. That might also make for an interesting discussion, but it has nothing to do with my evaluation of the car in question.

I'm just trying to stay on topic and make sure I'm understood. It makes it really hard when people don't carefully read what you write, and/or imply that they have jumped to inaccurate conclusions. On the other hand, it doesn't really matter very much, does it? You'll have to forgive me, as an editor, straying off-topic is a non-no, but out here in the real world I realize that... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
 

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Well Reid, Thats true but, some times what we write just don't read right---Keoke- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
 
editor reid,ill try to stay more on the topic here and in the future,im not familiar with this car,what if any is the association to the "biltmore" hotel?,were can i get more info on this subject? in 1976 i installed the h.v.a.c controlls and the master antena in the n.y.c biltmore hotel. in the basement garage was an austin healey,dark in color,with 4" of dust and bird pooh covering it,could it be?or perhaps this is just coincidental,or was this car just auctioned off there or for them? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
 
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im not familiar with this car, what if any is the association to the "biltmore" hotel?

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The Arizona Biltmore Resort is merely where the auction was held. The auction company was RM Auctions, and you can view the auction results on their website: RM Auction Results.

They list $52,800 as the price that the "1956" Healey went for, but bear in mind that that figure would include commission. The $50,000 hammer price that I heard is probably correct, with the additional $2,800 representing the auction company's buyer's commission.
 
When I came across this on ebay, I remember thinking that I hated the interior and it was an odd color. Not bad, but odd. But I'm missing something here. I understand that Reid can't talk out of school, but Anthony, since when aren't you doing any splaining?
 
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Anthony, you got the location of the Biltmore Hotels messed up.The Biltmore Hotel where this auction was held is an element of the Biltmore Resort and SPA located in Phoenix Arizona.---Keoke-AZ- /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cowboy.gif
 
Hi Reid,

No need to take offense to your original thread subject. We all just expanded on your original commentary. After all that is what these discussions are for. It sounds as if you know some information on this vehicle that could sway some of our opinions. Your article on car values and what drives them sounds interesting. Please post it !

Willy
 
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Hi Reid, No need to take offense to your original thread subject.

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It's not offense I'm feeling (or expressing). It's mild exasperation... which is edging towards moderate exasperation./ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

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We all just expanded on your original commentary.

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I think it's better if people make and expand on their own commentaries. Edging closer to moderate now... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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It sounds as if you know some information on this vehicle that could sway some of our opinions.

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I gave up long ago on trying to sway others' opinions./ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nonono.gif

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Your article on car values and what drives them sounds interesting. Please post it!

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We're there! Definite MODERATE exasperation now! I knew we could make it. (And why? Because I already did post it. It's attached to my post above, number 178249. I said I posted it, and I posted it. It's a reading thing.)/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hammer.gif

Happy reading. Maybe. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cheers.gif
 
Not to push you beyond the limits of moderate exasperation, but I've been following the prices on ebay and see that BJ8 drivers in the past two years (since I bought mine) have trended from about $20 to about $32, with a surprising number going as high as $40 and more. I'm not talking BJ range, but I agree with your assessment that BJ and other auctions happen in a rarified setting that private sales cannot reproduce. Still, we're talking a more than 50% increase in prices over the course of 2 years. Not too shabby. But it still doesn't explain anything about what's wrong with the Biltmore Healey. I subscribe to the capitalist credo, and find no fault with a car, even one with ugly seats, beyond sold to someone who has more money than taste. That's the American way.
 
keoke&reid,thanks for the info,not the first time ive been in the wrong place at the wrong time! and shg,my dear shg,what can i say. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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...But it still doesn't explain anything about what's wrong with the Biltmore Healey. I subscribe to the capitalist credo, and find no fault with a car, even one with ugly seats, beyond sold to someone who has more money than taste. That's the American way.

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OK, reading between the lines ("I have serious, ahem, reservations about its provenance") isn't for everyone. Let me state it this way: Would you find fault with a BN1 that had a BN2 Car No. plate (VIN plate) screwed onto the firewall, and was purported to be a 1956 BN2 when it was clearly a BN1, and probably an early one (1953-54)? I think most people would call it fraud. That goes beyond personal taste (colors), which was never the source of my reservations about the car. Like I said, I actually kind of like the dark blue paint with the parchment interior color combo. Capitalism is a wonderful thing, but fraud is a whole separate subject.

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