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Hello Everyone, From pictures I have seen, I am thinking that this is a BJ8 pump. (my car is a BJ7) But it was plumbed in with what I believe was an original fuel line, which can be seen alittle in the pic. The fuel line was damaged and stuck together with hose. Another question, if I wanted to make my own fuel lines, what fittings are available that will fit the threaded banjos. Dave.
 

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Dave, Moss makes a "banjo style hose kit" for that pump that uses neoprene lines so you can connect it to the steel lines. Part no. 376-108 MGB uses the same pump also.
 
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Thanks Brinkerhof, Since I have the ends of the original metal gas tubing, I could cut the ends from the tubing and leave a few inches sticking out, then make connections to new tubing with hose. But I would like to do the whole thing in metal gas line tubing. I believe Moss list the new line for approx. $124.00, I believe I should be able to make a new line for alot less than that. But I don't know yet how to make the end fittings. (my banjo fittings will stay on the pump).
Somewhere I think I read, maybe in searches, that the connection can be made with a compression sleeve (olive) on the very end of the tubing and its companion nut, which then will seat into the tube connection of the banjo. But I can't find that. Is anyone familiar with this method?
Thanks, Dave.
 

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Dave , on the banjo fittings that you have weren't steel lines soldered on? I have a roll of 5/16" steel tubing that I made my fuel lines from and soldered them on.
 
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Brinkerhoff, no my lines were not soldered to the banjos. Look at my pic and you will see that I have the end of the gas line tubing shown. It has an end which is like a large bell flare with its companion nut behind it which thread unto the ends of the banjos. It's that bell flare that I don't know how to dupicate. But it may be soldered to the line. Actually it looks like it might be brazed on. If it is soldered, I may be able to get it off the old line and put it on new tubing. If it is brazed, I fear that I will destroy the fitting trying to get it off. Will solder hold, or I didn't think soldering was a reliable way to secure gas line pieces. Pardon me for being critical, that's not my intent, I don't know anything about this part of the business.
Thanks again, Dave.
 

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There is a flair fitting tool to make those flairs. One can obtain a tool with a set of dies (for different size tubing) relatively inexpensively. I've had mine for years; I probably got it from Harbor Freight or Northern Tool.
 
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Thanks John, But that is not a flare of the tubing end. Take a close look at my pic, what you see is a separate fitting, probably made of brass and it is sweated, either solder or brase to the end of the tubing. I'm thinking I should be able to buy a new fitting and solder it to the tubing. Having said that; i did do some searches and in Moss's MGB cataloge, under fuel lines i found in the section for the early B, it appears to be a fitting using a compression sleeve to join the tubing to a threaded end of a banjo fitting. But still I hope to find a brass fitting that is soldered to the tubing. Im pretty sure that is the way it was done originally. Thanks, Dave.
 

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Dave , all of the fitting were soldered on the steel lines I'm pretty sure. You're right if you think both the lines were in one piece : from the tank to the pump, and pump to carb.
 
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